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Published Date: 26 September 2008
FISHERMEN in Scotland are throwing away £40 million worth of fish every year, in a situation that has been described as "economic madness" and "hell" for the industry.
At a time of high food prices and of economic downturn, millions of tonnes of dead fish are being thrown over the side of boats into the North Sea each year because of European quotas. It is now estimated that about 100,000 tonnes of fish are dumped by Scottish fishermen alone. This means that, for every North Sea cod caught and landed by Scots fishermen, another has to be thrown away.

Yesterday, politicians, leading members of the fishing industry and environmental groups called for an urgent change to EU regulations. At a summit in Edinburgh to thrash out a solution to the problem of discards, Richard Lochhead, the environment minister, said that he was "appalled" by the situation.

"Discards are bad news," he said. "Bad news for fishermen, bad news for consumers and bad news for the environment. I am appalled and frustrated at the scandalous level of waste and the economic and environmental madness discards represent. In what other industry would it be acceptable to throw away so much of what is produced?"

He said hard-working skippers were heartbroken, and he has even heard of many who cannot face going to sea.

He added: "The scale of the problem beggars belief. Crazy European regulations mean that, at a time of worldwide food shortages and higher food prices at home, our fishermen are having to throw away up to £40 million worth of fish for which there is a perfectly good market."

He said that the solution must involve allowing fishermen to land much more of the fish they catch, rather than discarding it. It is claimed that the problem arises partly out of the mismatch between the quota available for North Sea cod and the increased abundance of the stock over the past year. This means that increasing numbers of large, marketable cod in particular are being dumped into the sea.

Mike Park, executive chairman of the Scottish White Fish Producers' Association, said the solution should be a new system of regulations, based on a catch-less-land-more approach.

"The fishermen actually take less out of the sea, but they land everything they catch," he said. "It makes huge moral sense and huge environmental sense."

He said there was "huge frustration" among fishermen. "You are going through the process we have done all your life, and you are having to discard most of the big fish that you have always looked at as the cream of the crop."

The Scottish MEP Struan Stevenson described the situation as "scandalous". He said: "We have soaring food prices in the shops in Europe and people really struggling to make ends meet with household budgets.

"There are almost a billion people in the world starving. For us to be dumping a million tonnes of healthy, edible fish into the sea is scandalous. It's the unacceptable face of Brussels' interference."

He said he supported Scottish fishermen in their quest to change European regulations: "The discards debacle is the only way that fishermen can comply with the Common Fisheries Policy, and failure to do so would lead to them being prosecuted if they attempted to land out-of-quota or juvenile, immature fish."

He added that new regulations should enable all fish caught to be landed, with those too small to eat sold to the processing sector for fishmeal and fish oil. He said it would save fishermen time and costly fuel, because they would need to spend less time at sea: "In addition, scientists would get a much clearer picture of the state of fish stocks if all fish caught had to be landed."

The approach would be similar to that already in place in Norway, which does not belong to the European Union and can therefore set its own rules. It would mean an overall limit would be set on the number of fish caught, known as Total Allowable Catch, but quotas for individual fish species would be scrapped, so that every creature caught can be landed.

Mr Stevenson applauded Mike Mahon, a Cornish fishermen who announced a fortnight ago that he was refusing to discard any fish he caught. "He has started a revolution against the ludicrous rules."

He also worries about the environmental damage of dumping so many fish into the sea: "There's a limit to the amount of fish the birds can eat," the MEP said. "The rest rot. Rotten fish cannot be a healthy thing for the marine environment."

Richard Dixon, the director of WWF Scotland, agreed that a new approach of limiting days at sea but enabling fishermen to land all they catch has potential. However, he said the "devil will be in the detail", because it could end up encouraging fishermen to catch the species of fish that are vulnerable.

David Ritter, senior oceans campaigner with Greenpeace, said "one could get lost in superlatives" describing the discards situation. "It's dreadful. It's an appalling waste," he said. "It's something as an organisation we have been appalled about for some time. At a time of rising food prices, it makes it all the more ludicrous. There's simply no way of justifying it."

He called for quotas to be set, based on the scientific guidance, and said 80 per cent of European fishing stocks are now outside sustainable limits: "This is part of a broader dysfunctional system, whereby quotas are consistently given that are beyond the scientific recommendations."

And he thinks the priority must be creating marine reserves.

The Scottish Government yesterday announced it was starting a campaign to lead the way in changing the European regulations.

However, Liam McArthur, the Liberal Democrat fisheries spokesman, said the problems cannot be solved by Scotland alone.

"The Scottish Government must work constructively with Westminster and the EU, as well as with the Regional Advisory Councils, to address this complicated issue," he said.

"Inter-governmental action, not unilateral spin, is needed to resolve this problem."

A European Commission insider said the commission was "very open to changing the rules to reduce discards".

He added: "It's not an area where the commission tries to defend the current policy. If there's now a particular drive towards changing the rules, the commission is leading it."

He agreed the idea of changing the "rigid system of quota allocation" needed to be addressed. He added that a good way forward would be to reduce the total fishing activity, in order to diminish the amount of fish that are discarded.

'To do this is completely abhorrent and our feeling is one of anger'

DUMPING tonnes of dead fish over the side when they could be heading for the nation's dinner tables is heartbreaking for fishermen, says skipper John Buchan.

Mr Buchan is the seventh generation of fishermen in his family and hopes his grandson will take on the way of life he sees as part of his heritage.

But he says the current rules, which force fishermen to dump thousands of tonnes of dead fish overboard, are like "hell" for people in the industry.

"It goes against everything that's normal for a fishermen to do," he said. "It's a terrible situation and fishermen are pretty blameless. We are being punished for the sake of a policy. The policy of rigid quotas hasn't worked for years."

He described it as a "joke", but added: "It's a very serious joke, that's the problem."

Mr Buchan, 58, has been fishing all his life, sailing out in his 24-metre trawler, Fairline, into the North Sea from Peterhead. Once they cast their nets, they are forced to take the gut-wrenching step of throwing much of their catch back into the sea.

"It causes anger, despair and concern," he said. "To do this, which is completely abhorrent and against what we do, means that we feel a range of emotions but the predominant one is anger."

His grandson is training to become a fisherman and Mr Buchan hopes there will still be a future in it for him.

"It's not just a way of earning your daily bread," he said. "It's your heritage. I feel passionately for the industry."

He said he had heard of fishermen leaving the industry because they no longer think it is viable.

Discarding so much of the catch means fishermen are spending more time at sea, which is adding to the costs they face due to high oil prices.

"Fishermen are more important than fish, and we have to make a living," he added.

IN NUMBERS
54%

of North Sea cod caught and discarded each year.

23,000

tonnes of cod discarded.

36%

of North Sea haddock caught and discarded.

31,000

tonnes of haddock discarded.

20%

of North Sea whiting caught and discarded.

6,500

tonnes of discarded whiting.

14%

of North Sea herring caught and discarded.

5,400

tonnes of discarded herring.

Industry seeking a three-way solution
THE public are bewildered as to why this is happening. Most people would wonder why fishermen don't just stop discarding so much fish. Why don't they just not catch them in the first place?

If it was as simple as that, we would have cured the problem a while ago.

The problem is mixed fisheries and the inability under present methods to completely avoid catching fish you don't want to catch.

There are three strands, in the view of the industry, to the solution.

The first is to make the gear used more selective. This can be done when catching Scottish langoustine, for example. Panels in the nets will allow the prawns to be retained and let the fish go.

The second is to try to avoid catching the fish we don't want to catch at all. That's being done by real-time closures – shutting areas off for 21 days when there is an aggregate of fish that we don't want to catch, such as spawning or juvenile cod.

The third is by far the most difficult area, which is to get the regulation right.

The problem is, how do you catch the right number of fish and not discard, but remain viable?

Limiting the number of days at sea has the potential to form part of the solution, but just allowing fishermen to spend fewer days at sea is a terribly blunt instrument that could damage their commercial viability.

The trick will be that if fishermen have to spend fewer days at sea, they will as a result be allowed to keep all the fish they catch.

Policy that's a cause of contention
THE Common Fisheries Policy has long attracted controversy from both fishermen and scientists.

Governed by the European Union, it sets quotas which decree how many of each type of fish member states are allowed to catch.

Each country is given a quota based upon the total available fish stocks, and their traditional share of the catch.

Known as the Total Allowable Catch (TAC), this has been a source of contention among states that joined the EU after the system had been set up and so did not have a historical catch share.

TACs are fixed annually by the council of ministers in December.

They consider proposals drawn up by the European Commission in consultation with its scientific advisers, plus the views of non EU fishing nations and those of the International Council for the Exploration of the Sea.

Each member state is responsible for policing its own quotas. Every fishing vessel is allocated an individual quota for regulated species. Catches and landings must be recorded and areas may be closed from fishing to allow stocks to recover.

There is also a minimum size for fish that may be landed.

In the EU, fishing contributes less than 1 per cent to gross national product. And fishing represents no more than 10 per cent of employment in any region of the EU. However, it is often in areas where other employment opportunities are limited.

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  • Last Updated: 25 September 2008 11:38 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
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1

Zander G,

EDINBURGH 26/09/2008 00:40:00
It is a disgrace that fish are thrown away. This certainly does nothing for conservation of fishing stocks. There should be some method of allowing fishermen to land and sell fish caught in excess of the quota. The fishermen should not receive the full price for the excess, but should at least have their costs reimbursed.
2

Guga II,

Rockall 26/09/2008 02:38:57
Let's get out of the CFP. In fact, let's get out of the EU altogether.
3

Bundy,

Western Australia 26/09/2008 03:58:53
What a waste, considering starving people around the world.

I agree with other comments, get out of the EU soon as possible.

4

glaswegian at heart,

florida 26/09/2008 05:32:52
I think the world has gone nuts .A pound of frozen haddock here costs $8 and god knows how long ago they were swimming.It should be criminal to throw that many fish back at such a high cost to the fish industry and the country .......STOP THE WORLD,I WANT TO GET OFF.
5

Pilrig,

Livingston 26/09/2008 05:59:57
Don't the fishing communities realise that a civil servant sitting in an office hundreds of miles away knows best ?
6

Aussielassie,

Sydney 26/09/2008 06:14:43
I am sorry to hear of this waste. Surely some exporting would not go astay. It is superior to all other salmon. Looking forward to seeing it more plentiful on our shelves.
7

BIG EYE,

Paisley 26/09/2008 07:30:08
Clear Madness

In a world with a shortage of food and with ever spiralling food prices we are wasting £40 million.

What's more the same fisherman need to go out the next week to catch more cod and haddock to replace the fish they dumped the week before.

I thought we were trying to conserve fish stocks.

Just think if we were not following this folly and had controls that made sense then that £40 million pounds worth of fish could be in the seas breeding and producing hundreds of millions of pounds of fish in the future.
8

Unimpressed one,

26/09/2008 07:34:03
And yet here's Salmond presiding over this lunacy being carried out by Scottish fihermen in our waters and he's powerless to lift a finger. The EU is a cancer that needs to be cut out. Corrupt, inept and dictatorial. Except that it's a great place for our failed political teat suckers to feed from.
9

Alan Reid,

NZ 26/09/2008 08:06:48
Thanks for nothing Mr Heath. English Tory who didn't mind screwing Scotland.
Time has long been past to get out of this Union.

Vote SNP, THE only party fighting for Scotland, the rest are traitors!
10

Alan Reid,

NZ 26/09/2008 08:08:54
11 Unimpressed one, Salmond did not cause this. If you don't like it, vote for an independant Scotland.
11

Anonym,

26/09/2008 08:10:03
The problem here is that the legislation from Brussels has had unintended consequences.

The trawlers have to keep fishing to meet their various quotas, in order to make enough money for the whole enterprise to be worthwhile.

In order to meet one quota, another (Cod) gets exceeded.

Then because rules are rules, the excess gets dumped.

Possibly this is an unintended consequence of policy, but considering how well these bloody people are paid to come up with governance, is it too much to hope that they could take responsibility when they get things wrong, and set about SORTING IT OUT!

If it is caught it should be landed, and once the quota for one species is reached, the fishing should stop, as long as there are concerns for conservation.

And when the stocks are replenished and strong, there really should be no need for 'quotas' at all.

Of course it is all more complicated than that, but it's not so complicated that we shouldn't expect our 'political elites' to quit faffing about, and come up with practical solutions!

Wasting resources is terrible, and must stop.
12

Anonym,

26/09/2008 08:14:03
Alan, I'm not sure the Unimpressed one is saying it is Salmond's fault. I think he is saying there is nothing much Salmond can do about it, as the relevant policy area, whatever that is, is 'reserved' to Westminster, and dictated by Brussels, along with reams and reams of other rules, regulations, laws, etc...
13

Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 26/09/2008 08:24:51
Brussels knows best - why don't we implement a policy of discarding half our Eurocrats and keeping the fish we catch? We'd get more sense out of a dead halibut than most of these people. They have probably never even seen a trawler and think that fish comes from a supermarket, ready packed in little frozen packages.
14

Scottie,

South Africa 26/09/2008 08:26:11
Well said Struan Stevenson, with so many people starving it's an absolute disgrace that so many dead fish are just thrown away.
15

Rabhairt,

Cannons Creek Australia 26/09/2008 08:31:29
The stupidity of the whole thing is that its happening because of quotas, the majority of the fish thrown back would be dead, I think the whole damn world is going mad, if President Bush can spend 7/8 billion dollars bailing out the FAT CATS maybe he might buy the excess fish; I'll give him a call and let you all know what he thinks, Big rabbie.
16

Richard Lionheart,

26/09/2008 08:51:40
Quiet, don’t let the environMENTALists get a hold of this, they will want a further tax put on the one’s that are landed to discourage food waste!

Sensible Scotsman readers would of course suggest that the E U Quota system is scrapped and National maritime Limits are re introduced.

We are quite sure that our fishing fleet can supply the fish to anyone who wants it.

Presumably it is all this decomposing fish in the seas that are causing Global Warming, so I can have my single candle burning for an extra hour during the winter.
17

Jay Kay,

26/09/2008 08:57:53
Hmm they should maybe take one of these dead fish and stick it down the back of the PM's radiator and then leave it there for a few weeks, that should get things nice and smelly. mind you he's bound to be used to the smell of c**p by now.
18

Tom Cambeul,,

North 26/09/2008 09:19:38
When will the Scottish Executive grow some cajones and tell the eu to get the hell out!!!
19

Resolutions,

26/09/2008 10:53:36
Richard at #21

If we allowed them to land the stuff, the fish oil could light your 'crusie' for you!

Wonder how the 'pen-wielders' who dreamt up the quotas, wondered how the fish would 'segregate' themselves into 'allowed to be caught' and 'quota full- lets go guys' nets?

The quotas are loony and always have been. Days at sea and size of mesh better ideas and always have been.
20

ARP,

Scotland 26/09/2008 11:03:10
What's new about this?
21

WatchKeeper,

Nr. Diss 26/09/2008 11:10:40
There are three stories today that should be like a beacon to Alex Salmond and the SNP. And I have chosen to make my comment here because in 1969 I had returned from Africa and was working from Aberdeen on the Sea Quest when oil was first discovered.
I have stood on the seabed there, at 200ft. and more, when you couldn't move for cod. I can't now remember how long I worked from Aberdeen, and Dundee,Peterhead and Fraserburgh.
One of the other two stories, is Alex Salmond's Taxation proposals, you should all support him in that endevour. If you get what I believe he intends, your cost of living will increase by some four or five percent. But your over-all Taxation will drop by some 20% percent. And it could be higher than that.
Here in the East of England, I have made the same case to some members of Norfolk CC. as well as making contact with Suffolk and Essex CC's.
It is a simple and legal, manoeuvre to change the Tax system and Westminster cannot stop you. But to be absolutely Legal, it requires the Taxpayer to initiate the process. Then the Taxpayer must ask the Local Authority to take control of the Revenue, but the Spending Policy is to remain the responsibility of the Taxpayer and the elected Council. I now intend to comment on the other two stories, ID cards for sheep, and, Alex Salmond's Local Income Tax.
Kind Regards, ATFlynn, "Norfolk's Mutineer".
22

Claudero,

Hamilton 26/09/2008 11:15:46
The throwing away of fish is simply sick.
It may be that only unilateral action could awaken the necessary awareness of what actually is happening, and get things moving. Things have been that bad for so many years, and there is no point in talking about the need for a concerted effort when nothing has actually been done to stop this scandal from going on and on and on as it has done.
The legislation and the throwing away of fish are in themselves unreasonable, and means of breaking the deadlock need to be devised, to make people aware of what is actually happening. Hit the dead-head politicians with a dose of unpopularity, there's a lot of scope for that without going as far as the insane law on fishing actually demands fisherman do!
23

Unimpressed one,

26/09/2008 11:36:54
#15, Salmond didn't cause this but he's powerless to lift a finger against it. As he would in an 'independent' Scotland. Think before you type rubbish.
24

brownlie,

26/09/2008 11:46:54
30 Unimpressed

At least in an independent Scotland Salmond would be involved in the consultation. He would not be left sitting in a corridor like the Unionist representative from Scotland was whilst the UK Government were selling Scotland short.
25

Phil the Flooter,

26/09/2008 12:37:10
I blame the English..
26

Nevsky,

Moscow 26/09/2008 12:54:41
First thing to do is to land ALL the catch and find a market for it, even the small whitebait and fish with little value.

Second point would be to standardise fish prices where a box of small cod is the same value as a box of large cod, too much incentive for fishermen to keep the more valuable catch at the moment.

I would estimate 70% of the catch is dumped most of which could either be exported to the Spanish and French markets, re-processed into a commercially viable product for the consumer or sold as fish meal, no reason to discard 1 fish really.

Lastly, each country should be apportioned it's own territorial waters where no foreign nation's boats are allowed...if you ain't got it in your waters tough luck, you will have to buy it from someone who has.

Can't see Iceland and Norway joining the CFP any time soon, the industry is worth millions and sustains rural communities..same should apply here...Scots first and Spaniards second, full stop!

27

Displaced Scot,

UK 26/09/2008 12:55:48
It is high time that the UK left the Common Fishery Policy and we run it ourselves.
Last night we saw on the News a Scottish based trawler discarding good fish in Norwegian waters. The EU is criminally resposible for wasting another nations resources.
On the south coast, Hastings fishermen have to watch French boats catch British fish in British waters, because the locals have such derisory quotas. If they exceed them British civil servants will fine them and they may lose their homes. Ted Heath betrayed his country.
28

forest2807,

Quite close 26/09/2008 12:59:49
This is utterly scandalous. Regardless of one's personal political beliefs, surely everyone can see that this situation cannot be allowed to continue. To waste the earth's resources in this manner is criminal, and it is high thime this was pointed out to the EU and they were held to account for this outrage. I have the utmost respect for the Cornish fisherman who refuses to dump his catch overboard and lands it regardless of the diktat from Brussels. Wouldn't it be great if more fishermen did the same - maybe the Eurocrats would start getting the message. Civil disobedience is a wonderful tool of protest for the masses, and I hope that if I worked in the fishing industry I would give Brussels the proverbial two fingered salute by refusing to waste my valuable catch. This has got to stop, simply for the good af mankind. We cannot continue to plunder the oceans and waste natural resources. I am appalled and hope that this situation can be resolved and the ruling from Brussels is overturned, or even better, ignored.
29

tomislav,

Home 26/09/2008 14:52:28
Why dont we do the same as they want us to do with the sheep, and give the fish I.D. Cards
30

tomislav,

Home 26/09/2008 14:57:30
13. Hey Alan, the majority of people in Scotland dont and never will share your views, we are British and proud to be so, we will always remain in our beloved Union with our friends and neighbours in England
31

Adso,

26/09/2008 15:01:44
I guess the question is how big would 'by-catches' grow to if they were allowed to be landed? It's not difficult to imagine them growing and growing. There needs to be a solution but it is also critical that stocks of fish are protected to avoid over-fishing and collapse.
32

nolimits,

Far North 26/09/2008 15:09:48
Well now, for the lack of anything better to describe this mess, I would call it moronic And these are supposed to be educated people making up the rules? Sounds very much like our own DFO in Canada, and the Pacific salmon botch up. Regardless, I know of an independent freezer vessel who would love to take on any excess catch. Lets just say that the motives are completely altruistic, and the food would go to the poor of the world. Free! Any interest?
33

loadster,

lexington park 26/09/2008 15:30:14
1. Place blame accordingly. The legislators who put bad laws in place should be publicly embarassed. If they knew or later saw the laws shunted and abused and did nothing to correct, they should be thrown overboard as well.
2. Hire intelligence. Write or instigate smart laws on a sample population and then get feedback from observers, captains and mongers if it works or how the desired result will be waylayed.
3. Fix, adjust, respond. Don't just hammer a post in the sand and hope the criminals will run into it.

Be careful of harsh restrictions on time at sea. Like crab fisherman in the Bering sea; it makes even a smart captain forced to go out in stupid seas to remain financially afloat.
-of course the captains are crying when they throw their catch overboard. The ones that don't are the true criminals.
34

Pilrig,

Livingston 26/09/2008 15:32:28
39 - the Scots people need to realise that civil servants sitting in London and Brussels know best.
35

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 26/09/2008 15:43:13
Thank God Canada is not part of the EU or a similar body.

By its ridiculous, persnickety, precious pronouncement and arrogant edicts it has shown itself to be a body composed of worn-out bureaucrats and self-serving numpties that is quickly losing whatever cachet or reputation it had on the world stage.
36

Ian, (realist),

Inverkeithing 26/09/2008 15:55:05
About time this madness is addressed before north sea stocks dissappear altogether.

Quotas for landing fish don't protect fish stocks. period!


The solution is simple; adopt a system that works i.e. the Norwgian system of landing everything whilst managing & monitoring which sectors of the sea are fished or protected.

They have good size & numbers of fish and a good industry.

Do things the european way and the north sea will end up as skint as the Mediterranian.

Oh and stop fishing for sand eels too! they are the staple diet of all we are trying to protect.
37

Adso,

26/09/2008 15:57:36
#44 - Correct me if I am wrong please but did Canada not fish the North West Atlantic until the ecosystem collapsed?
38

WatchKeeper,

Nr. Diss 26/09/2008 16:45:31
I have posted a comment, no. 28, and suggested that, as Alex Salmond wants, Taxation is the way to go.If the people of Scotland take control of Taxation, it is then your shout whether you stay with the stupid, destructive EU. or you take back the management and control of your own affairs, fishing to begin with.
But you will only achieve this when you control your own Taxation. Regards, ATFlynn, "Norfolk's Mutineer"
39

nolimits,

Far North 26/09/2008 16:47:40
#46 Adso: Ahhh..not exactly. I fished the NW Atlantic back in the 60's out of Halifax, Nova Scotia. True, we took our share. However, the really big fishing fleets of up to 60 trawlers, along with their mother ships, mostly Russian, Polish and Baltic countries, were a huge,and I mean huge presence on the various banks. When they were done, after 60 days at sea, there was very little left to fish. I left the industry in 1968, as by then there was not enough stock left to make a living at it.
40

Nevsky,

Moscow 26/09/2008 17:32:54
49 nolimits#

I think some of the stuff they caught in the 60s is still for sale in Russia. Trying to find fresh fish in Moscow is nearly impossible. De-frosted salmon is counted as fresh fish...

I would have thought the Russians took pelagic fish in the 60s and not whitefish?
41

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26/09/2008 17:51:00
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42

grannie,

Glasgow 26/09/2008 17:58:30
Fish has got so expensive. The only reason I still buy it is because I realise how dangerous a fishermans job is and he also must have a family to provide for. Think how much cheaper it could be if they were allowed to land all that they catch.
43

brownlie,

26/09/2008 19:05:29
52 grannie

Now if you were a Labour MP/PM you could have your fish at Simpsons in the Strand and the tax-payers would pay for it. It's fine and dandy being a Labour grandee!!
44

weeshooie1,

Wollongong 26/09/2008 19:48:04
Aussielassie, Sydney,

I very much doubt if you will see more Atlantic fish on our shelves. Go to any supermarket (especially Woolies and Coles) in any of the bigger cities in NSW and have a look at their fish sections, most of the fish comes from Vietnam and China. I'll stick to catching my own Flathead and Bream thanks, at least I know it's fresh and comes from clean water.
45

Ewen Miler,

Amesbury 26/09/2008 20:22:52
This madness has been going on for decades - ever since Edward Heath sold the British fishing industry down the river - the price of entry into the as Common Market.

This has destroyed an industry and many communities, including my home town of Arbroath. And still we allow this outrage to continue!

46

Robbierunciman,

Romney Marsh 26/09/2008 22:02:31
nice to the ill informed ant-EU crowd is out tonight. The problem legislators have is that industtries like fishing are full of rule benders. The best way is to limit the days at sea these chaps have or strip the boats of the their fish finding technology.

like someone said if 'by catch fish' could be landed there would suddenly be an increase in the amount of 'by catch' cod landed by boats looking for some other species.

Don't get me wrong, this is a waste, if the fisher folk were not so devious then they would understand that they need to manage the fish and not abdicate responsibility to the rest of us to stop them.
47

saltire.1,

Moray 26/09/2008 22:16:06
Alan.13

Yes the nats are the only party fighting scotlands corner
48

Alan Reid,

NZ 26/09/2008 23:00:47
25 danielrober, Seven grand, thats all, I had a couple of months work in Angola for Aberdeen companies, happy now?
49

Alan Reid,

NZ 26/09/2008 23:02:16
46 Adso, Spot on.

 

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