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Tourism chief tells hotels to raise prices 'because they're too cheap'



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Published Date:
24 November 2007
HOTEL operators and guesthouse owners across Scotland have been told to raise prices during peak periods to cash in on demand from visitors.
VisitScotland's chairman, Peter Lederer, said accommodation providers who found themselves booked up months in advance should do all they can to maximise income.

And he has called for tourism workers to stop apologising for the cost of a visit to Scotland and instead talk up the value for money on offer.

However Mr Lederer, the chairman of Gleneagles Hotel, was criticised by industry figures and politicians who feared the impact his message may have on Scotland's reputation.

Critics warned visitors may be put off returning to the country if they believed prices had been increased in the peak season or to coincide with major events, like golf competitions, rugby internationals or festivals.

Mr Lederer was speaking out at VisitScotland's annual meeting in Edinburgh, when he also warned that the industry was being let down by rubbish-strewn roads, inconsistent service and a culture of complaining about the weather.

He said industry representatives should be working harder to boost business in quieter months through outdoor activities, festivals and events.

Mr Lederer said everyone in the industry had a part to play in boosting income generated by Scotland's tourism by 50 per cent by 2015.

"I've just come back from a visit to the Outer Hebrides where they have a very strong six months of the year and the rest of the year is very quiet," he said.

"Some businesses there are already booked up for next summer and when I heard what some of them were charging, I told them I thought they weren't charging enough. If you are booked up so far in advance, as a good business you need to be looking to maximise income.

"We have to think about the whole experience people are getting. People are often happy to pay more and it's about offering them value for money. There is still a culture of people in the industry apologising for the cost of accommodation and travel. There is a perception that Scotland is an expensive place to visit but that's not the reality.

"It all depends on the experience people have when they are here, the quality of their accommodation and the service they have had."

Mr Lederer said Scots should "take more pride in our country in general", picking out the need to improve the cleanliness of streets and motorway verges.

"We need to address the whole culture of people throwing rubbish out of car windows and emptying ashtrays by the side of roads," he said.

"The level of service is improving across the country but it is still too inconsistent and we're still way behind countries like Austria and Switzerland."

But David Hinnrichs, the head of the Edinburgh Hotel and Guesthouse Association and owner of the Allison Guesthouse in the city, said: "I don't agree with what Peter Lederer is saying at all.

"What you normally find across the industry is that hotels and guesthouses have a top rate, that they occasionally discount during quieter periods.

"Our top rate is £110 for a room and we don't go above that for events like the Fringe or rugby internationals."

"We're always keen to attract people back here for a return visit and you won't do that by ripping them off.

"It's well known in the industry that Scotland is perceived as an expensive place to visit and I think it sends out the wrong message to say this to businesses.

"We may be going through quite a good period at the moment, but no-one knows what is around the corner, in terms of the economy and the strength of the dollar."

George Foulkes, a Labour MSP for the Lothians, said: "It's far better for the market to decide these things rather than have prices set artificially high for peak periods.

"It would be totally unfair on visitors to hike up the prices when big events are on. You could kill the goose that lays the golden egg."

'WE HAVE SET RATES'

THE Blue Reef cottages at Scarista on Harris, in the Outer Hebrides, have won numerous industry awards.

The two turf-roofed cottages each have their own sauna and jacuzzi, and are already booked from April to mid-October next year.

Proprietor Neil Campbell said: "We have set rates of £1,380 for a week in one of the cottages April-October and £880 for a week outwith that. We feel we offer good value for money at the moment and wouldn't want to increase our prices any more than inflation. We don't see the need to charge any more."

The full article contains 790 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

Navvy,

24/11/2007 02:20:17

You have got to be joking, our hotels are much more expensive for frequently poorer service than, for example Germany

Also in most of the world you pay for the room and not per person.

We have a hugh amount to learn about value for money

2

Yosemite Sam,

24/11/2007 03:19:23

Have got to agree with 1. The prices in Scotland are so high compared to a lot off other places that you can get to easily. If you add in the typically bad service in restauarants, cafes etc then hoteliers are on a hiding to nothing if they increase their prices.
The man is an a**.

3

Bluevoice,

Dubai, U.A.E. 24/11/2007 03:39:13

"VisitScotland's chairman, Peter Lederer, said accommodation providers who found themselves booked up months in advance should do all they can to maximise income. "

Greedy Greedy Greedy!!!

4

COLINTON.MAINS,

canada 24/11/2007 03:44:42

this.guy.is.out.to.lunch

5

the_figures_are _fudged,

Galashiels 24/11/2007 03:51:38

how much does he get paid ?

6

Mallory,

24/11/2007 04:35:25

Typical comments from a quango chief. No worries about repeat business, no worries about reputation, no worries about overseas perception, no worries about competition, the supply of part time labour or government inspired form filling. And of course no worries about funding or losing a pension.

7

clola,

west australia 24/11/2007 06:00:16

I cringe when i read of people wanting to push UP prices to the public. Granted that the owner of a business has a different view about a punter coming through the door than the punter himself has.
One is looking to make as much money as possible, the other looking for best value for his cash. These are often mutually exclusive. Been travelling extensively in Canada, US, India and Australia these
past 4 months and there is no question that the US is by far the best value for money presently.
Stayed at Holiday Inn Express Edinburgh, beside the royal yacht, paid £9.50 for two pints of magners cider. Tell me i was not ripped off !!!

8

Breezy,

Argyll 24/11/2007 07:04:44

Well there you are folks, if anyone was in any doubt as to why we have to get rid of quango's like ' Visit Scotland ' it's illustrious chairman has now provided you with the proof.
Instead of trying to achieve the standards that are the norm in other countries this eedjits solution is ' Ach, just hike the prices up '.
There are plenty of places in Scotland that do provide service and value for money, unfortunately under the roof of ' Visit Scotland ', they are few and far between.

9

Cadgers,

Perth 24/11/2007 08:05:16

Prat. Head prat of the quango full of prats called visitscotland.

10

Roballe,

Aberdeen 24/11/2007 08:06:38

Travel to the ends of the earth, for that cold, wet and windblown experience. Be chomped on my midges and dine on dubious fare - unless your employer’s paying for a stay at Gleneagles. And be prepared to pay an eye watering sum for the privilege. It’s a call to exploit those international junkets which surface from time to time. That and the super-wealthy Americans and Japanese that play St Andrews. Unfortunately, it prices out the self-financing visitors that choose to tour Scotland.

11

Boy Wonder,

24/11/2007 08:13:13

VisitScotland needs an overhaul ... and let's start by throwing out Lederer! As said by others, Scotland is an expensive place already ... let's not rip off our potential tourists any more!

12

james 1st,

nz 24/11/2007 08:33:26

having visited scotland this guy must be paid an incredible amount if he thinks hotes in scotland are cheao. nothing in scotland is cheap

the only thing that i found value for money was joining historic scotland, the fee is not too high and the properties available are fantastic.

hotels and b&b were ridiculous although the caravanparks were reasonable, eating out was for millionaires only a meal that would cost 20 to 30 dollars n nz worked out at about 60 dollars in scotland

will be back though in april

13

Riley Hamish,

Edina 24/11/2007 08:54:53

Lederer is a FOOL.
The question is not price but "value for money" and in MOST cases, the Scottish hotel package is NOT worth a candle when compared accross the competition. He's a daft git..........dump him now !!

14

AbandonAllHope,

24/11/2007 09:06:23

Gleneagles is overpriced rubbish, its had its day

15

Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 24/11/2007 09:31:00

Spent some time in Canada last June and found that motel and food prices were much less than in Scotland. By the way coffee was usually less than 50p a cup and that included fill ups as well.

16

Upbeat,

24/11/2007 10:15:19

It may sound unlikely but could it be that Mr Lederer has too small a grasp of the industry in Scotland. ?

This is partly because he is familiar with the rarified atmosphere of e 5 star hotel, and partly because he has access to and presumably studies the incomplete statistics presented to him by Visit Scotland.

Whatever his recent experience in the Hebrides, Mr Lederer should reflect that there is much more to running any successful and profitable operation through 4 seasons than tinkering around with price.

Customers enjoy their holidays, and visitors will return because they feel that the experience they have had has been value for money.

It would be good if more low price accomodation providers in any area recognised that there should be a sensible minimum room night charge. But we exist in a competitive market. Any one operator may know that a rival business nearby is undercutting his own. He may be fully aware that because his own premises are better ,those who go to his rival get even less value for their money. But should the higher price operator increase his own room night price in isolation this will only ensure that the cheaper outlet gets even more business.

If it was the equalisation of minimum charges in regional accomodation across the providers that Mr Lederer was refering to in his address then he may have a point. But the article above does not suggest that this is what he was thinking at all.

17

Mart on Skye,

24/11/2007 10:33:44

#20 No I don't think so.

It's trashy and expensive now.

What people want is good service at a reasonable price.

Poor service is the enemy of Scotland.

18

Upbeat,

24/11/2007 10:40:37

20 Jennifer.

I don't think that the intepretation you suggest can be drawn from my post at #19, at all.

19

Homo Sapiens,

24/11/2007 10:44:01

The comments by this incompetent quango leader, Lederer, should be grounds for his dismissal, as proof of lack of understanding of the market. His comments are solely aimed at trying to push up Scottish Tourism revenues, so that he will be able to toot his horn..

The sad reality is that Scotland with all it s beauty and tourist attractions has failed to punch its weight in the tourism industry. Prices are too high at hotels and restaurants. Service is too poor. It started improving with the influx of Eastern European migrant staff, but there is still a long way to go. For as long as quality, and value for money lag behind other countries, raising prices would ruin the tourism sector.

Keeping in mind that the overvalued Sterling is already reducing the appeal of Scotland as a destination for foreign tourists, adding even higher prices could plunge the sector into crisis rather than growth.

20

Kaytoc,

Maryland 24/11/2007 10:52:42

Have figures been compiled showing the amount of US tourist dollars spent there in the last season?
Can you say 'target marketing'? If you price yourself out of the market you lose.
I recently returned from a visit to Scotland and had to budget very stringently, which definitely had an impact on my overall experience.
I love your country, but between the cost and Broons '53 questions' I fear I will have to forego the pleasure in future.

21

elite ernie,

edinburgh 24/11/2007 11:01:53

24
I agree with every word and a quick look at the collective membership of the quango confirms that most of them are unlikely to be in touch with the realities of hospitality commerce in the mainstream provision of service.The perspective from Gleneagles is distorted indeed -did friend Bush not fall off his bike here ...health and safety not up to the mark???
On a serious note I have travelled across three continents in the past two years and found better service than I have experienced in Scotland- as a native Scot I now know by experience where the gems are in Scotland but I have also had some pretty bad experiences.Lack of investment in staff training is a major flaw in Scotland .Lederers approach is as usual out of touch and expedient.How much does he receive as chair of the quango....time to pull the plug on that one Alex !

22

elite ernie,

edinburgh 24/11/2007 11:05:14

er Lederer has been re-appointed as chair of
VisitScotland.

The Minister for Tourism, Culture and Sport Frank
McAveety said:

"I am delighted to announce that Peter Lederer has
accepted my invitation to serve as chair of VisitScotland
for a second term. His knowledge of the tourism industry
stems from a wide background and this teamed with his
personal experiences within the industry make him an ideal
choice as chair."

"VisitScotland continues to face significant challenges
and I am aware of the key role that Peter will play over
the term of his appointment. I fully appreciate the
contribution that he has already made and look forward to
him continuing this work as he strives to drive tourism on
to bigger and better things."

Mr Lederer will receive a remuneration of £8234 for a
commitment of two days per week. Mr Lederer has elected to
receive exactly the same as his Board members despite being
entitled to a higher remuneration package.

The chair's remuneration is subject to an annual review
by the Scottish Executive. His appointment will run from
April 1, 2004 to March 31, 2007.

Peter Lederer was appointed chair of the Scottish
Tourist Board - now VisitScotland - on April 2, 2001,
having served as a member of the board since 1995.

He joined Gleneagles in 1984 as General Manager and was
appointed Managing Director in 1987. Previously he held
operational, administrative and senior management positions
in multi-million enterprises in Canada. He was also a
partner in a design, construction and consulting firm
providing services to the hospitality industry. He is
Chairman of the Hosp

23

elite ernie,

edinburgh 24/11/2007 11:06:57

Appointed by Frank he could do no wrong

24

davidtourist,

USA 24/11/2007 11:08:44

My wife and I love Scotland. We've made good friends in Scotland. We visit every year. And, we book far in advance every year to assure our accommodation. Why? Because we have found some wonderful places to stay, on our own, because your "star" system is very unreliable. We've stayed in _dirty_ 4 star B&B's with lousy service and _wonderful_ 3 star B&B's. When we find a clean one, we "grab it." So, it is true that your best B&B's might charge more, but then what? When they are no longer fully booked because we cannot afford them, it will be because we are staying home, not staying elsewhere in Scotland.

25

educational snob,

Edinburgh 24/11/2007 11:48:54

Scots generally (and particularly Aberdonians) suffer from the stereotypical image of being a greedy, stingy, money-grubbing nation. So, what does Mr Lederer do? He simply reinforces the stereotype, and demonstrates that, in fact, it is reality.

26

educational snob,

Edinburgh 24/11/2007 11:51:11

No. 29, 'David Tourist' is very correct when he says that the 'Star' system of hotel ratings cannot be relied on in Scotland. Some 2-star hotels are much better than some 4-stars for comfort, service and quality of food.

27

celticsnowdrop,

24/11/2007 12:05:24

the guy is off his trolley...personally I would rather spend my money abroad.....as much as I love my Scotland .....it is a total rip off.....dos,nt matter if it is rooms, cinema, concerts etc.....it is a total rip off.....sorry but !!!!!! the guy needs to get closer to home and realise it is the scenery and the people who make holidays.......hotels and B&Bs would never be empty if the charges were reasonable......even camping is now a luxury

28

MandyMac,

Glasgow 24/11/2007 12:13:24

If we had decent hotels and guest houses I might agree but, we don't. They are horrid plus expensive and have got away with it for years- disgusting.

29

Gordon,

Edinburgh 24/11/2007 12:15:47

A five star hotel can charge what it wants, knowing the clientèle have more money than sense.

A small B&B would prefer to know that the same guests who were polite and enjoyed their stay would return the following year - much better to know you have customers than wait around in the hope someone will appear at the last minute.

Remote areas need security: that is not provided by constantly bumping up rates, as eventually the clients will not decide to pay.

30

David Harrington,

Edinburgh 24/11/2007 12:22:29

It depends how it is put - if it is reducing prices to fill up rooms when there is lower demand, then I don't think people would have any problem with that and, I assume would take advantage of the situation. However, if you hike up prices when there is heavy demand, that could be seen as opportunistic, which is probably bad.

31

Copper,

Falkirk 24/11/2007 12:29:33

No one has yet mentioned the best part.

When you book accommodation through Visit Scotland you are charged 3 pounds then 10% of the cost of the accommodation is deducted from the B&B provider.
Part of this money is sent to a company in France and part to a company in Austria and no doubt part into a large Brown Envelope

The Scottish Tourist Board were well and truly Numptied and Cronied by the Labour Party and the failings are now begining to bite them in the a...

The B & B providers
The Business Companies
The Mature Staff
Are all leaving them or thinking about it

The high cost of everything in Scotland was a constant tourist complaint.

The beauty of the country and the friendly people were the reasons for the visit.

Now however the staff of VisitScotland are costantly urged to sell Tourist Crap wearing cheap black suits.
Money seems to be the only thing the Labour Party think about.
Where on Earth do they go on holiday ?
Surely they cannot all go to Kirsty Warks

All reasons why I left.

32

Methspaña,

24/11/2007 12:56:02

All along the coast here (Southern Spain) you can get full board for about 25 pounds pp (out of season) in a 3* hotel (with heated pool in winter). In the height of summer the price DOUBLES to 50 pounds pp per night full board......(just to annoy you).

33

elite ernie,

emra 24/11/2007 13:11:34

Boswall -I think he gets £8000+ for two days per month -usual quango rate not per week so press release was wrong
This is the remainder of the press release which I lifted for the post above -it was chopped becaus eof word count :
""VisitScotland has a strategic role as the public sector
agency providing leadership and direction for the
development of Scottish tourism to get the maximum economic
benefit for Scotland. It exists to support the development
of the tourism industry in Scotland and to market Scotland
as a quality destination. VisitScotland currently employ
173 staff. Grant-in-Aid received from the Scottish
Executive in 2003-4 amounted to £ 31.45m

This Ministerial Public Appointment was made in
accordance with the Code of Practice issued by the Office
of the Commissioner for Public Appointments. All
appointments are made on merit. He has not been
politically active in the last five years.

He is also a board member of Connoisseurs Scotland,
Scotland the Brand, Royal Mail Advisory Board for Scotland
and is a member of the Council of CBI Scotland. He has
also served on the board of Scottish Enterprise
Tayside."

34

Alan B,

24/11/2007 13:29:32

What a clown. If the story is accurately reported you have to wonder how he ever got appointed.

1) It is already expensive to holiday in scotland
2)with the point so high against the dollar is that really what we need at the moment
3)If these businesses are operating at a decent enough profit the why should they be pushing up prices. Fine if it is to improve and invest but no for profiteering. If there is not enough accomodation, it does look like that in some areas at certain times of year we should be looking to expand the capacity.

As a head of visit scotland he should be working with government to expand that capacity. Things like planning permission for new hotels should be looked at.

35

Alan B,

24/11/2007 13:30:08

sorry 43

pound so high against the dollar

36

Micjonger,

24/11/2007 13:38:43

Visited Edinburgh last year.

First tried to book through VisitScotland which quoted £1010 for the hotel accommodation for myself & wife - of which a booking fee of 10% plus £5.50 would be taken.

We didnt think it worth it for such a hotel and booked through an independent agent for the SAME week,for the SAME hotel at a cost of £720 - and no booking fee.

VISITSCOTLAND IS ONE OF SCOTLAND'S BIGGEST DRAWBACKS WHEN IT COMES TO PROMOTING TOURISM.

37

The grouch,

Ontario 24/11/2007 14:46:24

This Lame Brain..wants to increase Accomadation Costs, in the, LAND WITHOUT SUN!!!!!!!!!!
Whats this Dude on???
Hmmm..I wonder what kick backs come with the territory....Free this, Free that!!!! Friends in Zurich..
HEY, maybe he's an Englander....Sneaky..Huh.
Your Tourist Industry needs this guy, like it needs the Clap..
Never mind...Be Happy..Get off your Butt.
Enjoy the Weekend, Floss up and Boogie, Gas the Warbird...Cruise....Better Still..Immigrate..

Endangered Specie....Thin Humans..Shalom

38

Riley Hamish,

Edina 24/11/2007 15:34:41

#20 JENNIFER
Keep it "cheap and trashy".........???????


Let's be clear. Were you talking about yourself???

I think we should be told ........Oh, ..and why are we "all enemies of Scotland"?????????.
......Bizarre, just totally bizarre !!

39

Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile SOUTH AFRICA 24/11/2007 15:44:43

This guy has rocks in his head . business is about maximising profits through improved service and quality, much as I love coming home for holidays and business few establishments can offer this and continue to use cheap useless foreign labour and that includes hotel owners who for the most part are English and know nothing about Scottish hospitality

40

Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile SOUTH AFRICA 24/11/2007 16:18:59

What happened to freedom of speech,freepress who take more liberties than most of the great unwashed
,the moderater takes longer to deliver our comments than Gordon BROWN DOES ON HIS POLICIES

41

Rabster,

Edinburgh 24/11/2007 16:21:29

Jennifer #20 is the only person here who is actually thinking about what the guy was saying. Lederer's comments about price seem to be a very small part of what he said, but this is the only bit the Scotsman has reported. Presumably what he was getting at was that by charging slightly more in the peak summer months, you can invest more into your business and improve the service you offer - rather than keeping your prices rock-bottom with service levels to match (lowly paid staff, tired decor etc) - thereby customers will be happy to pay more for a better level of service. Quite clearly he wasn't suggesting everybody should just increase their prices for the sake of it.

42

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24/11/2007 16:25:23
Comment Removed By Administrator
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43

Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile SOUTH AFRICA 24/11/2007 16:27:47

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT No 49 rabster?

44

Upbeat,

24/11/2007 18:29:06

49 Rabster.

It is by no means clear from the article above that Mr Lederer said any of the things that you attribute to him . But a reason is still needed to support the idea of higher baseline prices.

Contained in the posts of some of those who are most involved in Tourism here, and have considered this in detail, there is a very good reason why they consider MrLlederer's remarks to be the result of him being out of touch with the industry of he is supposed to be a figurehead .

It does no good for any accomodation provider to raise prices in isolation from those around who compete in the selfsame region.

Some customers judge the type of accomodation they book by the price level and star rating alone. They would not give their business to unclassified hotels, or those with low industry ratings.These few might not notice the increases . But it can be argued that these people are missing the best value for money that Scotland has to offer. Price alone is no criteria for value for money, and price alone is no guarantee that your experience will be rewarding.

What Scotland's visitor accomodation providers need is higher occupancy levels all year. This will ensure proper professional standards can be maintained for those that work in the industry, and will ensure also that staff can be offered secure employment , at better wages. No hotel can afford to retain high quality staff if the rates being charged for rooms deter people from booking in the first place.

The whole subject is a careful balance with which all accomodation providers have to "wrestle" everyday. Because organisations such as VS take such a huge percentage of revenue anyway , up front , , it is quite easy to see why senior officials within that oganisation would be intersted in higher charges. These could generate greater income for VS without anyone at VS lifting a finger to improve their 'supposed' all inclusive "act" at all.

45

TomCayman,

Cayman Islands 24/11/2007 18:43:31

I'm disappointed but not surprised that the Scotsman simply grabbed some headline snippets from a multi-faceted presentation, and that following that the level of discourse here seems to have a) missed the point entirely, and b) insulted Peter Lederer and his professional ability and experience in pretty much every way possible.

The Herald did a better job on reporting his presentation, but www.scotexchange.net has further information still.

However, if you want a summary of what he was trying to say, his point was that there are many places charging too much for a poor product and many undercharging at times for great experiences.

Anybody disagree with that ? No, thought not.

On the matter of UNDERcharging, my family is from the Outer Hebrides, and last year I visited Lewis with my family. We looked for mid to upscale self catering accommodation for July and started looking in early February, at which point almost everything was totally booked out for the whole summer.

Some of these places offered great accommodations in wonderful locations for well under 500 pounds for a week for a cottage or house to sleep 6 or more. Put another way, under 12 pounds per person per night.

It is simply good business sense to put prices up (without going too far, it is a balancing act) if you find yourself selling out too early. If not, you are leaving money on the table, pure and simple.

Peter Lederer is highly regarded as a hotelier among his peers, and any successful hotelier would "get" this point.

Don't worry about reasoned argument though folks, keep chopping down the tall poppies and reinforce your own stereotypes about "ah kent his faither" Scotland.

46

JMR,

Nova Scotia, Canada 24/11/2007 19:07:22

I was born in Scotland. Emigrated to Canada in 1951.
Have gone back a few times.
With idiots making statements, like 'raise the price'.
I doubt if I could afford to 'come back again'.
I also find the idea of price per person, a deterrant.
The high prices is definately the reason, I don't make more trips back.

47

Ocean11,

JUST GET ON WITH IT 24/11/2007 19:22:36

It's embarrassing to read all the negative comments here about VS and tourism. You run your own businesses - just get on with it and stop the weak and lame dependency on VS.

His point appears to be missed by most in their rush to get their laments in words. He is explaining that its not about price but value for money and if people want to book far in advance then that's a vote of confidence in your business and you shouldn't be shy about being confident about your product and charge accordingly.

Grow up as businesses and stop the inclination to be spoon fed.

48

Alberto Fresco,

Galicia, Spain 24/11/2007 19:23:24

In the last four or five years I visit Scotland two or three times a year, for eight or ten days each time. I love the country and people, I am delighted with cities such as Edinburgh, landscapes as those in the Highlands. I intend to go on visiting your country, but I have to say accomodation and food are amazingly expensive. I have paid for a night in a not-so-clean (not en-suite) room in a B&B in Oban exactly the same amount as in a five-star wonderful hotel with is own 18 hole golf course in Ayamonte (Andalucia-Spain). Both in Easter.

49

Jonesy,

Holland 24/11/2007 21:53:01

What a pity that VisitScotland which is supposed to promote Scotland has a person like Peter Lederer as chairman.Is he so out of touch with reality. It is common knowledge that visitors to Scotland (and other parts of the United Kingdom as well as Brits are already being overcharged by the majority of hoteliers and guesthouse owners. Accommodation is by and large second rate and far overpriced by comparison with what is availble on the continent. The beauties of Scotland, the attractions, history and the like are compensations for many vistors. However when they get back to their home countries they feel that they have been overcharged with accommodation and spread the view that Scotland is beautiful but far too expensive. When asked would you like to come back again, the answer is "no, too dear. Mr Lederer why don't you clear off and get someone with intellegence to run VisitScotland. The country deserves better.

50

Kitti Kat,

24/11/2007 23:42:00

What on earth is wrong with Lederer? I was in Scotland on my yearly visit and stayed in a very nice hotel near the Royal Mile. Believe me, no hotel room is worth all the cash that this idiot wants to charge. He seems to forget that our dollar is now over two to one with the pound and a lot of my friends who visit Scotland and England , plus our company who does business there will be staying home if Mr. Lederer has his way. Maybe he can afford to keep paying higher prices but most of us can't and will not be back. What a shame. Scotland is a beaufiul country and I am forever telling people to visit. I am re-thinking that now. Americans will surely re-think visiting Scotland-especially Edinburgh which is almost as expensive as London.

51

DrP,

Calgary, Alberta, Canada 25/11/2007 02:32:40

Mr Lederer is ridiculous.
Go to any luxury hotel in Canada or the US and you'll pay less than for a flee pit in Scotland!

52

Kung-Half-Fu,

Cathay Prolific 25/11/2007 05:09:25

Without reading any of the the comments on this article all I need to say is that the conclusions by Lederer are ... sh!te.

Lederer does not know what he is talking about. I DO. Having owned and run a successful guest-house with (ex)wife years ago in another top-drawer scenic tourist-attractive part of the land I can inform him that raising prices in peak periods is tantamount to eventual financial suicide. Only a dunce with no experience could suggest this.

Why is it that publicly-funded bodies like the discredited and entirely useless VisitScotland are headed by idiots whose ground-level knowledge amounts to zero?

Total pr*ck with not a single original idea.

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redshank,

Seabrooke Island U.S.A 25/11/2007 17:52:43

The high pound, foreign competion will take care of this gentleman and Tourism Scotland over time. It seems they are out of touch with the worlds financial situation at present. There are just too many quality choices at present,at a better rate. It was a very stupid comment to make, when the rest of the world can read the Scotsman anytime, anywhere.

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Sanny,

Portugal 25/11/2007 19:57:58

Over the coming New Year period, my wife and I shall spend 4 nights on half-board at an excellent Rui Hotel in Isle Canela in Western Spain. Included will be a gala dinner with complete with wines and entertainment to see the Old Year out and the New Year in. Total Cost €256!!! That is approximately £180 or just £90 each, for superb service, excellent accommodation and food that would do justice to the finest restaurants’ in the UK.

That is the competition folks. This is a German company that provides value for money.
Wake up Scotland, sack these parasites at VS. If necessary employ someone from a German Hotel Chain.

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Airds,

Castle Douglas 26/11/2007 18:05:27

Does anyone in Scotland understand the law of economics? Price, supply & demand are all related and govern the price we pay for any commodity, from milk to diamonds. Unusually I have to agree with Mr Lederer here. If demand for accommodation is such that providers are fully booked a long way ahead, it does indicate that their prices are too low, and they are missing out on a higher profit margin. It's unfair that he should be so severely criticised for stating an obvious truth.

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garamasala,

aberdeenshire 06/01/2008 20:24:54
I think VisitScotland need to get their act together - Lederer has a point on making sure that what we offer is top quality - but simply sticking prices up against the weak dollar and on the verge of a global recession isn't the way to do it.

Many folk in this country would love to spend their holidays in the UK but find the cost prohibitive. Then again, maybe partly it's up to us, by being a bit more demanding here and putting some of our own hard-earned cash back into the economy, rather than just going for the cheapest deal in Spain every year.

Let's make sure our tourism base is as diverse as possible (we have a lot to offer if we bothered to put it forward), and that the quality of what we offer is top notch.

And things like good (and affordable) public transport, good affordable places to eat (not just bars), pedestrianised areas, and clean facilities in town centres wouldn't go amiss - some of these things are sadly lacking in our major towns and cities.

Comparable places in Europe seem to be one step up the ladder from us in these basic facilities, and we need to do something about it. Less 'consultation papers' and politicians wasting our money and more action on the obvious, please.

 

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