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Published Date: 01 July 2009
BRITAIN'S semi-nationalised banks Lloyds and RBS may be forced to engage in a fire sale of parts of their businesses as the price for their multi-billion-pound government bail-outs, it was claimed last night.
The fears emerged on the day that the Lloyds Banking Group – 43 per cent owned by the taxpayer – announced a further 2,100 job cuts across the UK, including more than 350 in Scotland.

The giant bank could now be forced to sell off brands such as the Bank of Scotland and Scottish Widows as a condition for its taxpayer-funded rescue.

The fresh concerns for the banking group's future came in a blunt warning from the EU Commissioner for Competition that state aid must be given only on condition of restructuring.

Under competition rules, the banks have to get approval from Brussels for the vast government support they received last year.

Speaking at the British Bankers Association annual conference in London, the European Commissioner for competition Neelie Kroes said there was a "clear case" for the Commission to follow its rules on state aid for banks such as Lloyds and RBS.

"This means restructuring must follow rescue aid," she said. "Banks cannot be rescued for ever. They need to restructure to have a sustainable business without relying explicitly or implicitly on another bail-out."

Senior banking sources admitted last night that her comments had significantly raised the bar, implying that Lloyds could be forced to sell off parts of its core business such as Scottish Widows Insurance and Insight Asset Management in order to qualify for state aid.

Analysts said that the EU's "sabre-rattling" could even mean that Lloyds would be forced to sell parts of its retail empire, such as the Bank of Scotland.

One banking source said: "The Bank of Scotland may have to be sold off. The language coming from the EU is definitely stronger now about what they need to do to qualify. This is getting quite serious for them now."

Lloyds has already openly conceded that it may have to "divest or exit core businesses" as a condition of getting state aid. RBS may also be forced to sell off further parts of its business in addition to its Asian operations, which are already being wound down. Lloyds is now 43.5 per cent owned by the state, while RBS is 70 per cent state-owned. As well as taking government equity, both are using the state's asset protection scheme, which allows them to ring-fence toxic assets.

The EU warnings came as the consequences of the bail-outs the banks received last year were underlined by the huge job losses announced by Lloyds, which bring the total number of job cuts at the bank since January to more than 7,000.

Scotland took a heavy share of the losses yesterday, with 355 posts expected to be cut north of the Border in the firm's Wholesale and Group Operations division.

Employees in the group's retail arm – trading as the Bank of Scotland north of the Border – are bracing themselves for even greater cutbacks early next year as the giant group moves its attention to meeting its targets of some £1.5 billion in savings.

Senior bank insiders say the cuts so far announced are by no means the end as the bank moves from division to division seeking out the cost savings which have been made possible by the merger.

With the firm's Wholesale and Group Operations section having been streamlined, attention will focus on the bank's core high-street business, as bank chiefs decide which branches to close and which to keep open. One senior source said: "This is far from finished."

Despite 7,000 jobs having already gone, analysts have predicted that as many as 40,000 of the giant banks' 140,000 posts could go.

There are fears Scotland would be disproportion ally hit, as the merger group employs 25,000 people here.

Scottish Liberal Democrat leader Tavish Scott last night called on Lloyds to end the uncertainty and spell out the cuts to come. "The sooner the staff of the Lloyds group know their future, the better. There must be no further delay from Lloyds bosses in explaining exactly how many more jobs are to go across Scotland," he said.

The bank sought to reassure staff yesterday, insisting that compulsory redundancies would be considered only as a last resort. It also pledged that it would not send any more UK jobs overseas.

The rationalisation process in other sections will now continue. Unlike the RBS, Lloyds has decided to go piece by piece through each of its divisions, with an announcement on the retail wing, the biggest section of all, not expected until 2010. The bank said yesterday that the job losses in Scotland will be mitigated by the creation of 40 new Lloyds posts elsewhere.

Mark Fisher, director group operations, said: "By bringing the businesses together, we will be better placed for the future. Regrettably, however, some of our colleagues will be affected by our plans.

We understand that this difficult news will be unsettling and we will be working closely with those colleagues affected."

But unions expressed continuing alarm at the scale of the retrenchment at Lloyds which has taken place since the part-nationalised bank was merged.

Rob MacGregor, national officer at Unite, said: "Unite is astonished that the Lloyds Banking Group is to make a further 2,100 cuts. As a taxpayer-supported organisation, real questions need to be asked as to how far this bank can be allowed to go in this systematic slashing of staff."

He claimed morale at the bank was "truly low as employees are in a permanent state of anxiety as they see their employer announce hundreds of jobs losses every week.

"This Labour government cannot afford to turn the other way as bank workers across the country are losing their jobs."

First Minister Alex Salmond spoke to Lloyds bosses yesterday to gain reassurances that compulsory redundancies will be "a last resort". The bank said that the job losses will be achieved mostly through natural wastage and voluntary redundancies.

Finance Secretary John Swinney described the losses as "extremely disappointing". He said Lloyds was committed to working with the Scottish Government's Finance Sector Jobs Task Force, aimed at retaining laid-off workers in Scotland.

He added: "While we regret the overall reduction in jobs, the commitments made by Lloyds are some cause for reassurance – particularly in the long term."


The full article contains 1093 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 01/07/2009 00:10:01
Well they have to find the £10-£15 million to pay the new RBS boss from somewhere and if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
2

Iainbroch,

01/07/2009 00:14:01
Let the feeding frenzy begin!

3

Forward not Back,

01/07/2009 00:31:00
The Lloyds - HBoS merger has been proven to be an utter disaster yet again. Lloyds, a stable, boring bank ruined by Crash's forced takeover of a basket case.
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 01/07/2009 00:34:44

'Once-upon-a-time' We respected our Banks, this was until their greed set in, and our Banks saw us all as money-trees, to-which we are Clearly Not!
I would say and do say, 'the banks deserve all they get', and I shed no tears, But!, we will still have to pay for their 'greedy-downfall'!

5

McNasty,

Edinburgh 01/07/2009 06:35:00
Bank customers will continue to be screwed forever until a government with a spine finally lays down the law to them. I would not count on this happening any time soon.
6

bonnietiler,

01/07/2009 07:22:44
But why are the Edinburgh trams stopping at Gogar, instead of going all the way to the airport?
7

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01/07/2009 07:30:05
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01/07/2009 07:30:18
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Andrew Morton,

Berkshire 01/07/2009 08:02:57
While they are partly nationalised just now, it won't be too long until they have paid the cash back and are private again.

I look forward to that day as government interference is way over the top!
10

paulr,

edinburgh 01/07/2009 08:40:09
The time is long past for the british government to tell the EU to keep out and mind their own business.
It's bad enough that more of our countries infrastructure, airports and power generation is owned by the spanish than by the british, now brussels is teling our government they cannot protect our economy.
Brown is a power hungry pratt, he is also a weakling and like predecessors he will bend over and take it from brussels like a MAN.
11

Proghead,

Embra 01/07/2009 09:30:47
# 6 - Bonnietiler

They ARE going to the airport, they were never NOtT going to the airport. Check the plans. There is a spur for Gogar marked on the plans for the RBS, but who knows now if that will be built
12

Baldred Neo-Bisset,

01/07/2009 10:02:57
#10 paulr
couldn't DISagree with you more. This is a merger that should NEVER have been made. The government (UK!) waived competition rules that are there for a very good reason. Lloyds' greedy CEO (American!) saw an opportunity to realise a long-held ambition to make Lloyds (ie HIS bank) the biggest high street bank in the UK. With government connivance, he got it. HBoS should've been left to face the music - it may well have survived or even been bailed out like RBS. That's another story. Lloyds, however, and their staff in particular are now having to take job losses that have little or nothing to do with the recession and the banking crisis. As someone posted earlier, Lloyds is a boring bank, but it was in profit! As the result of corporate greed (again), irresponsible institutional investors (eg Standard Life, who now admit that perhaps they got it wrong!) and reckless government interference, we are now witnessing the loss of 000s of Lloyds jobs, not to mention HBoS ones. We've just seen the start. The EU Competition Commissioner should've stepped in MUCH earlier to rule the UK government's move illegal and anti-competitive. There's no point in having rules or agreeing to them if you don't follow them. Both banks could've been running with few if any job losses. At the end of the day, I feel that people's jobs count. I wouldn't fancy being on the dole for 2-3 years competing for the few available jobs with 000s of other people in the same sector.
13

Navvy,

01/07/2009 10:20:44
#1
they have been paying monkeys for many years
14

Navvy,

01/07/2009 10:23:44
Perhaps this is a chance of a fresh start for BoS without the burden of association with the nasty H which started the rot
15

wellieboot,

Edinburgh 01/07/2009 12:46:36
As per usual the EU pick on the Brits (easy compliant targets) while conveniently ignoring the French and what the get up to (Renault)
16

Rob me blind,

Peterhead 01/07/2009 12:57:43
Just what assets do THEY have? its us the tax payer who own these banks and its our assets they are selling off. Its time that the government made the banks pay the tax payer back first and then hold onto the shares and use any dividends to pay for public services.
17

S.M.D.,

Edinburgh 01/07/2009 13:39:19
Should they not be forced to make the savings first with their top employee's, who are still on several £mill. bonuses,then there is Fred's pension deal...?
Those at the top them to have a way of looking after themselves,while those lower in the pecking line are the ones,who are going to get hit hardest.

#14
Would that not depend on, who would actually end up buying BOS?
18

S.M.D.,

Edinburgh 01/07/2009 13:46:18
#1
Could they not just have made do without a 'big' boss?
Just how much use was the last 1?
19

Pa broon,

Edinburgh 01/07/2009 14:30:34
While I am no fan of the banks or the labour administration that got us into this mess in the first place. It becomes a pain when unwanted EU apparatchiks start to get their two euros worth in. You can bet that european banks will be the first to benefit from any fire sale. Just like energy, British banks will eventually be owned by European ones. Jobs will be shifted to head offices elsewhere in Europe in the interest of the new owners home nation. Just as it happened in the Auto Industry. Banking costs will increase in the UK the same as it happened in the power industry. While costs for European mainland customers will decrease.Seems to me the European Union is a terrific deal for Britian!
20

Porky,

01/07/2009 14:34:39
#1 Mikko "if you pay peanuts you get monkeys"
Trouble is that whatever the pay we still get monkeys at the top of many large organisations. We need shareholders who vet contracts and insist on no rewards for failure.
21

Sand,

West Coast (another planet) 01/07/2009 16:43:47
Looks like there's going to be a lot of staff laid off at the banks. Must be unsettling for employees there. Plenty of work for Careers Advisers, one would have thought in helping them find what they would like to do instead.

Pity SDS (Skills Development Scotland) is restructuring and getting rid of careers staff everywhere and re-naming them as Skills Development advisers - what does that mean to the population and to schools? Careers Scotland is a national service which we are all entitled to use - all age and inclusive, but some are more equal than others.

The day of careers is almost over. One would have thought SDS adverts would have appeared alongside Job Centre plus adverts in the national papers re what Careers Scotland/SDS can help its population during the recession e.g. bank staff, but SDS has been largely silent. Perhaps no one cares but then perhaps W Roe (SDS chair) is keeping a low profile after he had to resign from his Rocket Science company re plagiarism etc.

22

DHS,

Edinburgh 01/07/2009 17:21:15
A reminder that HBOS/Lloyds group do pay interest on the loan which was given by the govt, it wasn't a freebie so we are being repaid interest. Also, I seem to remember the unions supporting the merger and saying it was the best thing to happen. Now they are backtracking.Not much fun wondering if you will have a job tomorrow,and with family to feed. Must be nice for Hornby to have such a well paid job, again. He will never be forgiven for bringing the company down
23

Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 01/07/2009 22:43:31
To all who answered my pay peanuts comment but appeared to take it seriously: I was - for the record - writing seriously tongue-in-cheek.

 

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