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Trouble brewing as rival banks lock horns over S&N site rights



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Published Date: 25 March 2008
TWO of the UK's biggest banks are squaring up in a battle for the former Fountain Brewery site.
Earlier this month, HBoS announced it had entered into "exclusive" discussions with Scottish & Newcastle to buy part of the Fountainbridge site for offices for 6000 staff.

But a rival consortium of three firms, including Royal Bank of Scotland, said today it had already been named by S&N as "preferred bidder".

The consortium, known as Springside, is seeking clarification over the current status of the valuable site.

Springside has already bought up the former S&N bottling and distribution plant across the road, and is currently building the first phase of new flats in a new "urban village".

The next stage involved purchasing the main brewery site, for which it was the preferred bidder before HBoS made its interest public.

A source close to the Springside consortium said today "a lot of money, time and energy" has been spent on its plans for building homes, shops and offices on the site. It also wants to create a £9 million, 650-space underground car park and a pedestrian-friendly "town centre" on either side of the main road.

A spokesman for the consortium, which comprises RBS, AMA Homes and property developer Grosvenor, said: "We are continuing discussions with Scottish & Newcastle and will be seeking clarification on the current status of the site."

However, it is understood that the preferred bidder agreement between Springside and S&N was not legally binding.

And the recent interest from HBoS, which wants to bring together its 16 existing city offices on one campus but retain its global headquarters on The Mound, has put the plans in doubt.

Mark Elliot, a spokesman for HBoS, said: "We are still in this period of negotiation with Scottish & Newcastle.

"We are not sure how long that period will last but they (S&N] won't talk to anyone else about the site."

Edinburgh city council also wants to hold talks with HBoS about its proposals.

The city's local plan states developers in Fountainbridge would be expected to provide homes, offices, small business units and a new shopping centre, as well as creating new public space and reserving a possible site for a new high school building to replace Boroughmuir.

Councillor Jim Lowrie, the city's planning convener, said: "We will be encouraging HBoS to enter into early discussions with the council as planning authority and the local community over their plans for the site.

"Any applications then received will be considered by the committee as part of the usual planning process."

A spokesman for S&N said: "We are not going to comment on negotiations. We are legally obliged to seek the best deal for our shareholders."


The full article contains 466 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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1

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/03/2008 12:06:33
Stop causing trouble Michael , this doesnt make any sense whatsoever.
2

Liam,

25/03/2008 12:12:06
RBOS has a commercial operation the size of a small city at Gogarburn. Why on earth would they want to snap up half of Fountainbridge too? Wouldn't that go against their plan to consolidate everything on one campus? Or is this more about being petty and trying to stop a competitor?
3

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/03/2008 12:16:47
2 I think its the fact that RBS would , probably through one of their property funds , would end up being the ultimate "owners" Liam.

4

Jingling Geordie,

Sunshine on Leith 25/03/2008 13:03:47
RBS is a global entity and by far the most successful company in the country, if they have an eye on the Fountainbridge site then rest assured it's for a very good reason and not simply gamesmanship.
5

Jenny MacArthur,

25/03/2008 13:32:31
The designs are just lovely aren't they. They just immediately say 'historic quality' with all that careful attention to local architectural idioms. Another triumph for the planners in saving this city looking like just another modern blot on the architectural-journal inspired identikit international map.

Oh, sorry, that was rubbish. Sack the whole planning department now.
6

World class concrete,

25/03/2008 15:06:11
#5: sorry Jenny but what "local architectural idioms" would you want replicated? There are still a few interesting buildings of character in Fountainbridge but it has never seemed to me an area with much in the way of "historic quality" - it was an industrial area after all.
7

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/03/2008 15:08:27
6. Have a look at the Pilkington building on the corner of Grove Street and Fountainbridge.. He was the guy who designed the Barclay Church at Leven Street /Wrights Houses. He didnt build a whole lot else but the man had style.
8

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/03/2008 15:17:07
here you go.

http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_street_e/0_street_views_-_grove_street_90_is.htm
9

Mr I Raitt,

of Leith 25/03/2008 15:24:15
What? 8 comments posted already and the Caltongate whingers haven't managed to link the story above to theirs? ... Oh no, wait a minute, that's what I've just done!
10

Grumpy,

25/03/2008 15:30:41
It'll suit the HBOS staff if HBOS fails in the bid to buy it. None of the staff want to move into the centre of town anyway.
11

rs,

in ma house 25/03/2008 15:34:41
Ever Wondered where all your money goes.

How many offices does these banks need,
Global recession
12

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/03/2008 15:37:33
11 its an investment. RBS even if succesful will not actually be there. pay attention, most of princess st is owned by investment houses.
13

WKKB,

25/03/2008 15:52:26
Can someone please tell me why there's yet another "modern" building going up in a historical site? These modern monstrosities will surely be out of date in 10 years and Edinburgh will look like a dumping ground for old out of date buildings rather than a beautiful city full of beautiful ancient architecture.
14

blackley,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 15:53:16
HBoS stinks. Come on the Royal!
15

World class concrete,

25/03/2008 17:02:27
#7/8: I agree - I love that building, which looks really ancient but isn't - I hope it's listed!

What a pity so few new buildings in Edinburgh inspire much admiration from the public.
16

Mallory,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 17:06:22
The Royal are in cahoots with the Duke of Westminster's property arm and AMA run by two Iranian brothers. HBOS could expect considerable savings by centralising their operation - their corporate business unit is already in the are and they have property at Tollcross. I'd be surprised if HBOS staff wanted to stay at the Gyle - most complained at the difficulty of getting to the shops over their midday break and it used to be a major difficulty for recruiters. No doubt when our glorious trams arrive commuting will be even easier. Meanwhile there is Haymarket Station and three buses going past the doors.

The real issue is that the overall transport infrastructure has never been properly evaluated for the area as is obvious by the regular jams, narrowed pot-holed roads in dreadful condition. Apparently a recent request to close Fountainbridge has been lodged by one developer facing access problems.

All this before work starts at Marcos (student flats) Morrison Street (Galeria etc) the Trams, the extension at the conference centre, the Buredi development, the empty automatic carpark and the former SSEB site.




17

AndrewS,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 21:51:59
More fool the organisations who claim to have spent money when they haven't got any rights to the site, but are probably gambling, and in gambling some you win,some you lose.
18

Happyhibee1956,

26/03/2008 01:49:05
I thought the only interesting building in fountain bridge was the local knocking shop/sauna.
19

Mallory,

Edinburgh 26/03/2008 09:10:01
#18 - it closed years ago through lack of custom after thge brewery closed. Where have you been?
20

Steam Ship,

Fountainbridge 26/03/2008 13:25:50
No.13 Historical site? It was an industrial estate! With poor quality tenements for the workers.

Now valueable land for the regeneration of a run down area of Edinburgh City Centre. Which will create jobs and bring money into the city.

I am sure the Sean Connery plaque with be kept!!

 

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