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'Contrite, full of humility' – RBS asks for £12bn from shareholders



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Published Date: 23 April 2008
ROYAL Bank of Scotland (RBS) bowed to shareholders yesterday as it asked for an unprecedented £12 billion cash injection to shore up its finances amid the global credit crunch.
Britain's second-biggest bank made the plea with "a great deal of humility", according to its chairman, Sir Tom McKillop, as the Edinburgh-based group revealed that a further £5.9 billion was to be written off, from risky property-related assets in the United States.

It came as mortgage lenders warned the government that interest rates for new borrowers were unlikely to come down, despite intervention by the Bank of England earlier this week.

Some of the UK's biggest mortgage lenders, who met Alistair Darling, the Chancellor, yesterday, are understood to have told him that the cost of deals for new borrowers was likely to stay high for the foreseeable future.

However, lenders also pledged to do more to help homeowners who got into difficulties keeping up with their mortgage repayments.

The Bank of England on Monday unveiled a £50 billion scheme to help tackle the problems caused by the credit crunch, under which banks can swap their riskier mortgage-backed assets for safer government bonds, in a bid to kick-start the crippled money markets.

There were unconfirmed reports that Sir Fred Goodwin, the RBS chief executive whose £4.2 million pay package last year included a £2.9 million bonus, offered to resign before the rights issue was finalised. He is due to face shareholders at the company's annual meeting in Edinburgh today.

But yesterday, he was given the strong backing of Sir Tom, who said: "The board unanimously believes that our executive team have all the ability to steer the bank successfully through this tricky period."

In a remarkably candid statement, Sir Tom declared he was "pretty confident" the rights issue would be well-supported.

"These are large sums," he said. "This is a big ask for our shareholders. We come to ask that with a great deal of humility.

"You should be in no doubt about the degree of contrition. This is a significant set of announcements.

"There is no single individual responsible for these events. To look for a sacrificial lamb just misses the whole plot."

Rival banks Barclays and Halifax Bank of Scotland are seen as likely to be next to follow RBS's bid to bolster its balance sheet.

Mortgage rates are governed by the inter-bank lending rate, Libor, which is currently at 5.90 per cent, 90 basis points above the Bank of England 5 per cent base rate, compared with a historical average of only 13 points above. Lenders will not be able to pass on lower rates to customers until Libor rates come down, and this is expected to take some time. At the same time, lenders are trying to increase their margins in the face of anticipated higher levels of arrears and falling house prices.

Yesterday's discussions between the Chancellor, Caroline Flint, the housing minister, and key members of the mortgage industry, including Michael Coogan, the director-general of the Council of Mortgage Lenders (CML), focused on what lenders could do to help borrowers who run into problems.

Both the CML and the Finance and Leasing Association agreed to review their voluntary codes on treating customers fairly and to report back to ministers by the end of next month.

The industry trade associations said they would meet consumer groups as soon as possible to take their views into account. Lenders also said they would repossess homes only as a last resort, while they would continue to meet all statutory and voluntary commitments on treating customers fairly.

They also said they would look at new voluntary activities, such as strengthening links with debt advisers, providing updated debt information and pro-actively identifying borrowers at risk of facing repossession.

The government said it would work with the industry to keep under review the framework for helping borrowers who end up in difficulties.




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  • Last Updated: 23 April 2008 6:47 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Royal Bank of Scotland
 
1

Angus Ogg,

22/04/2008 22:36:54
In December 2007, Sir Fred relished making the announcement of £10.3 Billion Pound Profit for the Royal Bank of Scotland.

I bet in December 2008, RBS announce another bumber multi billion pound profit.

Yet Sir Fred is asking for £12 Billion today, and also around an extra £10 billion pound trade in of dodgy mortgages for taxpayer underwritten Government Bonds !

The Banking Indystry: If you are a customer the motto is basically: "Bend Over".

P.S. Is anyone from these boards going to the RBS AGM on 23rd April 2008 ? It would be interesting to hear direct from someone there on how Sir Fred is shredded by the shareholders.
2

Hmm ...,

23/04/2008 00:28:07
... this huge amount to additional capital is being issued at a big discount (current price £3.62 and falling yet new shares offered at £2.00) - RBS shareholders have Hobson's Choice of paying out a large amount of cash (if they have it)for these new shares - or seeing their existing shareholding drop in value to the anticipated £3.00 post-issue price. Or lower. Time for Sir Fred to pack his bags and resign.
3

Home Brew,

23/04/2008 01:08:27
Goodwin wouldn't know humility if it bit his bits off!

Who writes this guff?
4

Home Brew,

23/04/2008 01:17:31
If your talent in life is bean-counting

perhaps you should concentrate on that talent

and count beans.

'Cos you sure aint a "people person"

and ergo, by definition, "not a banker"
5

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23/04/2008 01:35:55
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Vaccav,

Sydney and Edinburgh 23/04/2008 04:25:08
I disagree with the negative views on this board expressed so far. Fred Goodwin has done outstanding things for RBS and for Edinburgh. Under his leadership the bank has grown beyond recognition of what it was, say, in the 80's. Many people don't know that RBS is bigger than Coke, McDonald's, General Motors and Ford combined.

And it's here.
In our city.
Employing tens of thousands of people, generating significant wealth in Edinburgh.
We've a lot to thank Fred for.

Fred - well done on all the work over the years. Don't resign. Keep up the good work for shareholders and stakeholders. There will always be people who criticise but then criticising is easy. You can't be blamed for a global credit crunch that's hit everyone.

As always, Fred is always on the front foot. He's got his rights issue out before his competitors and he'll be in a better postion than his competitors to deliver to his shareholders and his customers.

If we're lucky, we'll have Fred for years to come.
7

Peter Wyngarde,

23/04/2008 04:57:55
#6 so are you this man's wife, publicist or mother???
8

Plodjfriss, Hammer of the Numpties,

Edinburgh 23/04/2008 04:59:34
And it's here.
In out city.
Employing tens of thousands of people, generating significant wealth in Edinburgh.

And it's lost £1.25 billion pounds on leveraged lonas in the space of only SIX WEEKS (see The Times for example).

The use of the word "humility" in this context is beyond belief.
9

Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 23/04/2008 06:04:42
Ahhhh..... chickens coming home to roost!

You buy dodgy loans from snake oil salesmen in the US and then announce record profits in 2007 followed by paying yourself a 2.9 million bonus!!!

Both Sir Fred and Sir Tom should do the decent thing and resign
10

Maitland,

Glasgow 23/04/2008 07:51:44
6 I totally agree with Vaccav. I'm not in any way related to Fred but he has done amazing things for RBS and put it, and Scotland on the map. It was just another potty wee bank before he took it in hand and, yes, the ABM deal did stretch it but who could have foreseen the sub-prime scandal at that time in which all major banks in the world were involved, RBS less than most. No, he certainly must stay and the rights issue, wisely declared first and to be followed by most others will be successful. Get real all you doom mongers RBS does credit to Scotland and so does Fred.
11

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PJ Walker,

East Lothian 23/04/2008 08:10:59
RBS can't be feeling the pinch that badly. They were entertaining two groups at Arcerfield House over the weekend, paying for accommodation, meals, drinks, green fees, caddies, hire clubs and boxes of golf balls.
Time to batten down the hatches Freddie boy. Perhaps getting rid of the private jet hangered in Paris, which, in addition to massive overheads and huge fuel costs, requires payment for an empty ferry leg each time it's hailed from to Edinburgh!
Reflect on your former 'glory', sir, as it looks like 'hero to zero' is on the cards.
13

Lesley,

EDINBURGH 23/04/2008 08:13:53
# 3 Spot on! "Humility" HAHAHAHA
14

Jambo-ree,

23/04/2008 08:32:11
#9 - Probablt no need to resign but paying back the £2.9m bonus might be a way of showing some meaningful contrition.

So it's a case of "we've been little bit silly financially, so help bale us out chaps". Would be nice to think they will now take a kinder view towards members of the public who have overstretched themselves similarly. But I'm not holding my breath.
15

Philmugla,

Turkey 23/04/2008 08:34:51
It is very difficult to accept all this talk of humility when the people at the top in banking industry are immune from the stress and the difficulties experienced by their clients and care even less. The financial markets and products are now very complicated in their structure and design and most of the top people within the industry do not even fully understand how these financial instruments actually work.

The RBS are not alone in operating what amounts to nothing more that a giant, legalised PONZI scheme that requires ever increasing amounts of capital to fuel the endless specualtion by fund managers. People are ripped off daily by stealth charges and the imposition of charges that are unfair and wrong. These guys live on the fat of the land and do not care one iota what we think. Avericious greed and self interest drive these markets, with our hard earned cash.

Sounds cynical? The evidence is there for all to see, look very long and hard before you part with your cash. HUMILITY, they have much to be humble about!
16

itsmeisntit,

in the queue taking savings out of banks 23/04/2008 08:34:53
Tell anyone & everyone ,Get your savings out of rbs .

17

BIG EYE,

Paisley 23/04/2008 09:01:22
Agree with 6 RBS are vital to Scotland and they are doing better than most banks.

As for the scaremongers on this blog they are being highly irresponsible and clealry have no interest in the betterment of Scotland.

Unionists I hope!
18

Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 23/04/2008 09:04:23
"a further £5.9 billion was to be written off" by the RBS.

So, in effect, the RBS has given an amount of money representing more than a thousand pounds for every man, woman and child in Scotland to people in America and has given up on the possibility of getting any of it back.

The next time you hear an American boasting that the US economy is the powerhouse of the world, it might be worth reminding him/her that US economy runs on money stolen from the rest of the world.
19

Philmugla,

Turkey\Edinburgh 23/04/2008 09:12:50
"The Bank of England on Monday unveiled a £50 billion scheme to help tackle the problems caused by the credit crunch, under which banks can swap their riskier mortgage-backed assets for safer government bonds, in a bid to kick-start the crippled money markets."

You see therin lies the trick, let the British people assume the risk by swapping the mismanaged debt burden for government bonds....Brilliant.

Does Sir Fred, as the commander in chief not take responsibility for his troops. Probably not, because no one is to blame and to look for a sacrificial lamb just misses the whole plot." Enjoy the salary and huge bonus when things are going well but no downside when the "ba is burst" ....Brilliant

When will we all wise up to these shysters? Smoke and mirrors and slight of hand are the current halmarks of the banking industry. Honour, integrity and customer service are long gone. Spin, stealth and self are the new currency and totally worthless as this debacle amply demonstrates.
20

Dissector,

Stirling 23/04/2008 09:18:14
Fred the Shred and humility! - about as likely bedfellows as Robert Mugabe and Morgan Tsv being friends.
How about Fred & Co taking a 75% reduction in salary this year and next so they share the pain that the RB of S is currently inflicting on personal and corporate customers ? If the cash problem was within a corporate customer that's exactly what the bank would ask for.
21

Citylocal Fife,

Fife News 23/04/2008 09:24:07
On a more general and perhaps simplistic tone, if all the banks have stopped lending money (as witnessed by the non-availabilty of mortgage funding) then why do they need to raise more cash?

As the Tories constantly asked of Gordon Brown "Where has all the money gone?"

I think that there is more to all this than what has been admitted.
22

boudica,

Glasgow 23/04/2008 09:47:36
RBS Banker is being ever so "Humble" He was about as Humble as Uriah Heep a Dickens character who was notable for his cloying Humility, Obsequiousness, and General Insincerity...Sounds like a Few other Ex-RBS employees ..must a Bankers Trait ...EH!!!!!
23

Arfur,

23/04/2008 09:50:02
as soon as i seen that there were comments on this story i knew exactly what to expect - a bunch of folk that know about as much of business and banking as they do about the molecular structure of a piece of grass mincing on about sack the board etc.

#6 - well said.
24

Doh,

23/04/2008 09:55:13
Outstanding bad management likes this should be and is well rewarded. It is outrageous that some people expected Fred the Shred to take one for the team and fall on his wedge.

You only get the brightest and the best if you pay them a a few million a year with bonuses.
25

fegan,

23/04/2008 09:55:55
If they would stop paying obscene bonuses to there staff and them selves that would be a good start
26

boudica,

Glasgow 23/04/2008 10:00:37
6 ...Do you write Alecs speeches for him ?
"Many people don't know that RBS is bigger than Coke, McDonald's, General Motors and Ford combined."
Yes and we all know about their Social Contribution to the Human Race
as they say ...You lie with Dogs you get Fleas..
6... as they say the Bigger they are the harder they fall ....and it is usually the little savers who get hit the hardest ...and it was this Bank that Alec wanted to control the Economy of a supposed Independant Scotland ....."Jobs for the Boys" I`ll say this it didnt take Alec long to start to do a
" Blair " do you think Alec will go for the Mugabe style of " Dicktatorship " in his " Socialist Republic" or will he go more for the " Iranian" Style of Leadership
27

C.,

23/04/2008 10:04:23
#6 i think your spot on.

I'm not an RBS account holder, nor related to Sir Fred or Sir Tom.

I think they have both done a great job with RBS. It wasn't that long ago RBS were a tiny wee Scottish Bank, not doing too much. Now they are one of the biggest in the world. When things were going well everyone was behind him. I think he is doing was he is doing to save the bank and protect its investors.

Both Sir Fred and Sir Tom didn't get to where they are and take the bank to where it is by being idiots. They are very smart and commercially aware business men.
28

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

23/04/2008 10:23:43
27 . Fine.

BUt the reason we have this mess is because the banks are afraid to lend to one another. And the banks will not pass on lower lending rates to their customers.

Basically, the mistrust in the Banking Sector (between THEMSELVES) could force the UK into recession. Now it seems 50BN will not be enough.

Who's got the toxic debt ? Who indeed .




29

Angus Ogg,

23/04/2008 10:33:58
#23 Arfur,

You seem to know it all then.

My negative comments about RBS are based on the fact that banks in general have little interest in anyone but themselves. They certainly don't help small businesses in a constructive way. Contrary to what you say Arfur, I know a little about this, as since 1999 my business (which is not banking) has been involved in making micro-loans between £2,000 and £20,000 to help start people off in business. Twenty businesses so far. Everyone of them, to a man and woman have been turned down by the banks.

This is what has coloured my view of banks to a negative one.

Having said that I have some sympathy with #6 Vaccav, and he makes some good points. RBS has certainly done well for itself and it's shareholders. Whether it has done well for it's employees isn't for thee or me to say but the employees themselves. Including those that have been famously "shred".

As for #7 Peter Wyngarde: excellent piece of humour my friend. Burst out laughing and got coffee everywhere. You owe me a new keyboard buddy.
30

Angus Ogg,

23/04/2008 10:47:42
#27,

You make a good point.

Nobody can deny RBS has done well for itself.

However, Northern Rock grew aggressively and did well for itself. Right up to the point where it over-extended and fell off the edge of the financial cliff. Yes ? No ?

RBS has clearly driven it's business right up to the edge of the precipice by the same aggressive business model as Northern Rock. Whether RBS drops off is debateable. I think Sir Fred's instinct for self-preservation is exceptional and RBS will survive. It has certainly done the right thing and made a ballsy move to go for the Rights Issue.

Unlike you, I am an RBS customer. I am leaving a reasonable sum in the bank as it is not the right thing to do to be panicky and this has the same effect that causes petrol queues and the likes of Northern Rock to fail.

That having been said, I withdrew a four figure sum last Friday, which co-incidentally was just when RBS had made their Rights Call, and the Teller in the bank was distinctly abrupt with me when I was withdrawing as there were a few others doing the same. She was advised that this was for a car, and to check her screen, the rest is being left in. She got the message, but it seems to typify the bank's attitude to customers. Or perhaps it is just genuine nerves being rattled on the staff. It is the staff that tend to bear the brunt when things go wrong.

One thing I do know, is that Fred is well taken care of. Whether he stays or goes, he will have extra millions of pounds in performance bonus or golden handshakes.

This cannot be said for the impending staff layoffs in the Financial Services sector. All those employed therein do not need crystal balls to know that 1 in 3 will be without a job by the end of the year. Whatever happens.
31

Arfur,

23/04/2008 10:48:19
#26 boudica - you obviously no nothing about what you are talking about. RBS have won many awards due to the amount of charity work it does. Employees can get some of their salary paid directly to charities tax free and for every £1 that an employee raises for charity, RBS will double it to a certain amount.
32

Luke Skywalker,

Same city as RBS 23/04/2008 10:54:44
#25 If you would learn to spell that would be an even better start. Then we might (and I emphasise "might") give you a little credence.
33

Stirling Sentinel,

Stirling 23/04/2008 11:17:47
I suggest Fred presses the delete button and jumps into his own shredder. He could even take Tom with him.

The only good news is that the external non executive directors are to be beefed up. Perhaps Alec will put forward his friend Donald Trump, although I would select Alan Sugar myself.
34

PJ Walker,

East Lothian 23/04/2008 11:23:26
#6

There are many ways to measure how 'big' a company is and market cap is usualy the benchmark. The combined market cap of the companies you list is more than 3 times that of RBS. I'm assuming you were going by pre-tax profit-if so, fancy a wager on what the dismal 2008 figure will be?
Comparing it with the motor industry in the USA is hardly relevant, as it is going through its worst slump in recent memory.

As for the RBS being solely in Edinburgh, haven't you seen the hoards of RBS execs filling the Fly Be ' London City Express' to Canary Wharf every Monday morning? RBS is spread all over the country and world, noit just wee Edinburgh
35

Luke Skywalker,

Edinburgh 23/04/2008 11:54:27
34 Yes, but it is headquartered in our Capital City of Edinburgh. That is what is important.
36

The Pianist,

23/04/2008 11:54:29
Surely the write-downs merit a criminal prosecution?

The financial mis-management is negligence on an unprecedented scale.

The Enron collapse cost stockholders how much? About $60bn? And now the BoE is bailing out the Banks to the tune of £50bn.

It should be a long time before bankers get paid bonuses after this fiasco.
37

Tired runner,

Edinburgh 23/04/2008 11:58:41
RBS, with everyone else in the banking sector, made a big mistake in taking on the risk related to mortgages from the US sub-prime sector.
But for those of you who say RBS is "on the brink" - get a grip, that is utter rubbish.
RBS is hugely profitable and will continue to be so.
It has a fundamentally different business model from Northern Rock (and B&B and A&L), and it is sound.
Put it this way - RBS is one of the last businesses which I could imagine going down. It will continue to employ many Scots and other Brits and contribute in a big way to our economy.
38

J R Hartley-Fly,

Fishing 23/04/2008 12:18:29
#34,

I've long wondered about the Make It Happen slogans plastered all over the airports.

Now I realise that they are motivational aids for RBS's hordes of travelling salespeople.
39

Argyll Eagle,

Argyll 23/04/2008 12:21:18
We are now paying the price for artificially inflated house prices and debt which should have never been advanced. What is happening now is the negotiations over who pays what proportion of the losses - Government, Bank shareholders or Individuals.
40

CS,

Edinburgh 23/04/2008 12:31:44
First of all, let us be clear on the staffing issue. According to official figures RBS employs around 100,000 people and only 18,000 of those employees are in Scotland.
I personally am both customer and shareholder. As a shareholder Mr Goodwin et al have my respect for taking the RBS from a national to international player in the financial field. However as a customer my feelings are the opposite, the level of actual banking service has declined in direct relation to the acquisitions made by RBS and the lack of prudence and let us not forget blinding arrogance on the part of the RBS board in the face of the sub-prime market and over payment for that Dutch bank are staggering. Mr Goodwin is known in banking circles as 'Fred the Shred', make no mistake if it was not his neck on the block he would be the first to be calling 'off with his head'. He and his board must therefore be prepared for the wrath of the shareholders and customers because the reality is that on paper, the bank may look as if it has made loads of money in the past few years but neither the investors or customers have seen much of it. Where has it gone? To buy overpriced Dutch bank and dodgy American sub-prime that’s where and what has the bank made for its customers and shareholders? Nowt, but billions of pounds of debt and our taxes should be used to award such dismal failure. Sacking Goodwin and his board may be a sacrificial lamb but it would get my vote and send a message out to others that society will no longer reward those who help themselves and play monopoly with their customers money, mediocrity is not good enough and if you are prepared to fly with the crows then you had better be prepared to die with them.
41

Philmugla,

Turkey\Edinburgh 23/04/2008 12:47:55
I'm with Angus Ogg on this and applaud his\her posts.

I agree that the RBS have made a major contribution to the prosperity of Scotland and indeed elsewhere. However, with the development of financial products that need an actuarial mind to decipher, the concept of investment is now replaced with mere specualtion in the hope of making huge returns without any understanding of the underlying investment vehicle.

We are talking in numbers that are mind numbing to the general public who feel powerless to make any positive impact to reverse this massive waste of resourses. Combine this with the small businesses and domestic customers who have lost confidence in the integrity of the banking system when we are penalised with unfair and unreasonable charges for every banking service.

People talk about success, where profits were good and the people at the top got the lion's share of the gravy without too many questions. But this was always an illusion, the underlying financial structure of these institutions has been unsafe for many years because of the demand for returns that can only be obtained by speculating in the never ending array of dirivative products and other mysterious arrangements that require a limitless supply of capital to generate the returns that the big players need to satisfy the expectations of their corporate investors and shareholders.

What annoys and upsets people most is that the fat cats expect the huges gains but will not accept the pain when things go wrong and that will never change!
Time to rethink the whole system of regulation and a more transparant and accountable business model for our banking industry.

42

Philmugla,

Turkey\Edinburgh 23/04/2008 13:01:36
Post from CS, Edinburgh.

I believe that this is absolutely right and your comments are spot on.
43

interstellarmince,

outer-space 23/04/2008 13:28:33
More financial clap-trap. Get real! RBS employee, Mr. Goodwin, is just another ordinary person with average ability just like all of us. If you can operate a PC, lift a phone and talk in a face-to-face conversation then you can do his job with ease. He gets paid obscene amounts of funny-money to keep the lid on the private banking scam.
44

Andrah,

not in RBS 23/04/2008 14:02:30
#43 sure sounds like a mince analysis to me straight out of the school for non competitive sports.
45

PJ Walker,

East Lothian 23/04/2008 14:12:53
RBS share price down 5% so far today and down well over 300 points compared to last year. Someone has to take the blame for this catastrophe and we all know who that someone is!
46

Country Life,

Edinburgh 23/04/2008 14:17:01
19, I see you have no idea how the debt swap works.

The British tax payer is taking on no an infinitesimal risk. The banks swap mortgage debt (at its written down value) for Govt bonds on which they pay commercial interest. After a fixed period the swap is reversed. The Govt gets it's bonds back, the banks get their mortgage debt back. The only risk to the taxpayer is if a bank goes bust.

Bit more complicated than that, but that's the gist of it. Liquidity is injected but the banks retain the risk in what is is a quite elegant piece of financial engineering.
47

Doh,

23/04/2008 14:36:31
#46 Country Life

If it all so simple the government assuming the risk of bad debts in return for bonds - why bother to swap them back in a few years time?

Why cant other struggling busnesses swap their debt for government liquidity?

For example, say my firm has debts of £300M, but I know I will pay that back a few years after my next tranche of share options mature (of course).

Can I have a £300M loan in the meantime.
Just to feather my nest, sorry I mean tide me over the credit crunch?

Heads I win, tails you lose?
48

Iain's,

23/04/2008 14:43:10
It seems to me that they were paying themselves massive salaries and bonuses.
If they can't look after their business, why should we trust them with more of our hard earned cash?

Are they the bank that spent millions on a flashy new building at Goger?

Let them go bust.
49

Philmugla,

Turkey\Edinburgh 23/04/2008 16:14:15
46 "The only risk to the taxpayer is if a bank goes bust". And that could never happen.....could it?

Bet many of the losers in these monuments to elegent financial engineering are now enjoying the results. Debt swaps are only a small part of this global financial debacle, However, point taken and thanks for the explaination.
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Fairfax,

23/04/2008 18:13:14
Country Life (46): "Liquidity is injected but the banks retain the risk in what is is a quite elegant piece of financial engineering."

That's not quite correct. As you state, the Treasury assumes risk if the bank becomes bankrupt, but there is also the possibility of the issuer of the residential mortgage backed security (RMBS) defaulting -- i.e. the RMBS swapped by the bank could itself become worthless. There is also the possiblity that the value of the assets underlying the RMBS could fall dramatically, due to falling house prices, in which case the swap begins to resemble a partially unsecured loan. Still, I generally agree that this is a good move that should have come months earlier -- Buiter and Sibert were suggesting a similar swap in August 2007.
52

Fairfax,

23/04/2008 18:19:53
Doh (47): "Why cant other struggling busnesses swap their debt for government liquidity?"

In a sense, this is one aspect of the Bank of England acting as lender of last resort: enabling banks to swap their asset backed securities (i.e. loans secured on property) for government bonds will also enable them to continue loaning money to businesses.
53

Euan,

Edinburgh 23/04/2008 18:43:13
The fact is that the Banks have been far too greedy for far too long.

Irresponsible lending in the form of loans and mortgages has created this trouble, and it's not just the American banks that has brought this 'credit crunch' to a head.

There should have been proper legislation in place YEARS ago on how credit of all types is doled out.

Funny, I haven't seen any of those debt consolidation adverts on the tv for a few months now.

Look what it has taken to make everybody wake up...



54

St Andrew,

Edinburgh 24/04/2008 13:26:58
When will shareholders realise that all this is just another form of gambling. Like most gambling sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. If you don't like the risk of losing - stop being a shareholder.

 

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