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Published Date: 21 October 2009
CITY financiers will together pocket New Year bonuses of more than £6 billion – 50 per cent more than a year ago – as the rest of the country faces growing unemployment and public-service cutbacks, according to research published today.
Seven-figure pay-outs will be among the bonuses awarded to many of the top financiers of the major banks and financial institutions this Christmas, following months of bumper profits.

But City minister Lord Myners warned he could act to cap them,
saying taxpayers "will not tolerate" pay-outs which they see as unjustified.

Lord Myners has already said he will block big pay-outs at those institutions that have been part-nationalised, including Royal Bank of Scotland.

The prediction of a £6bn bonus pay-out pot, compared with £4bn in 2008, is made by the highly respected Centre for Economics and Business Research and is well in excess of previous calculations.

In April, the CEBR said it expected 2009 bonuses to remain at 2008 levels, but since then profits at the leading financial institutions have risen sharply as the stock market has soared.

The CEBR also says profits have increased because of a marked fall in competition following last year's crash, which has given some firms a near monopoly on business.

The prediction of a return to bumper profits will put fresh pressure on ministers to intervene, coming only a year after the City was effectively bailed out by the taxpayer, following a financial crisis that it was seen to have caused.

With business returning to normal in the Square Mile, senior regulators, such as the head of the Financial Services Authority, Lord Turner, have warned they will act to prevent such mega-bonuses from being handed out.

Lord Turner claimed last month that there were parts of banking that were "socially useless".

Lord Myners said earlier this week that he would curb bonuses at those banks which had taken taxpayers' money.

Commenting on the CEBR research, Lord Myners added: "Banks must realise that they are alive today only due to taxpayer support.

"Taxpayers will not tolerate bonuses they see as unjustified.

"The government has taken action to ensure that bankers' bonuses can no longer threaten the safety of the financial system. The FSA will be carefully scrutinising banks as they make final decisions on pay and bonuses in the months ahead."

Other political figures last night said City bonuses must be curbed to reflect public opinion.

Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman Vince Cable said: "This big increase in bonuses does not in any way reflect the particular contribution made by bankers to the economy.

"These bonuses are coming from the fact that banks are earning money from substantial government borrowing and are able to earn bigger profits because there is less competition. What is particularly galling is that all their activities are, in turn, underwritten by the taxpayer.

"Ministers must stem public outrage by ending anti-competitive practices and ensuring that those getting big bonuses pay their fair share of tax, rather than escape via the many loopholes which the government has left."

A spokesman for the Scottish Government said: "When considering salaries and bonuses, financial institutions must be mindful of taxpayers' interests. These bonus figures are very significant, and restraint must be applied in the current economic climate."

The Conservatives have also warned against large bonus payments in the state-supported banks.

George Osborne, the shadow chancellor, said this month that an incoming Tory government would look at using the tax system to stop "unreasonable" pay and bonus deals.

But the CEBR said that, rather than penalising bonus payments, ministers needed to encourage competition in the financial sector.

The chief executive, Douglas McWilliams, said: "Any attempt to deal with bonuses is likely to be either unsuccessful or very damaging, unless it addresses the issue of lack of competition which is at the heart of the sharp rise in profitability."

However, leading City economist Roger Bootle claimed last night bumper bonuses this year were unacceptable.

He said: "I'm outraged. So many people say this is a mark of success. I don't think it is. It's a mark of failure.

"People talk about the wealth that these banks create. I think the big question is: are they creating wealth or are they merely distributing it to themselves? I think it's largely the latter."

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  • Last Updated: 21 October 2009 3:17 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Executive fat cats
 
1

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/10/2009 22:32:03
Broon has 50 days to save the world, so he is too busy to comment on this.
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 21/10/2009 00:13:06

Grotesque bonuses are going to be paid out, even after the downfall of our banks, warnings have been given but ignored, do not 'cry wolf', when all goes wrong all over again.

3

Canis Majoris,

TEXAS 21/10/2009 05:35:30
What's all the fuss about paying high bonuses.

Consider this, a real life situation: A smart well educated broker either male or female, with a degree in maths, who manages a portfolio of £20 billion over a 12 month period.

Makes a profit for their clients of £1.4 billion less taxes at 50% leaving a net profit of £700 million

Then the broker is paid a bonus of one tenth of one percent(1/10%) of the £700 million net profit, which comes to £7 million .
Now the broker must taxes on that income of £7 million at a (50% rate =£3.5 million).

So finally the broker takes home £3.5 million after paying 3.5 million in taxes

People the winner here is not the broker, its the Government tax collectors.
What did they do to make this profit of £1.4 billion NOTHING. But they took £703,500,000 in taxes.

So if you want to protest and bitch , then start with the biggest crook and con man 'The Taxman".

Leave the broker alone . They did all the work and their clients took the risks.
4

New Danielrober,

21/10/2009 06:51:14
So long as they pay the taxes due, good on them. The problem was/still is not successful people paying their way in life but petty tax dodgers and a few really bad business people.
5

TWC,

exLabour 21/10/2009 07:54:23
So much for Brown's promise tro control the bonuses.

When is he meeting his tame audience.
6

macmorrisey,

Glasgow 21/10/2009 08:29:58
Are we not "All in this together"?

I'm looking forward to my share!
7

Media ones back,

21/10/2009 09:33:19
Who thinks the recession was a fabrication?
8

Sparts,

21/10/2009 10:00:01
Why can't I comment on Rangers being humped? Should we do it here?

Re above, what a load of $£!£. #4 is broadly correct.
9

Ben Thehoose,

21/10/2009 10:00:52
On a recent BBC Radio 4 'Thought for the day' the suggestion made was: give them the bonuses, provided these are then handed over to worthwhile charities. I agree.
10

A Crofter,

Western Arce 21/10/2009 10:11:24
Canis - Only problem with your argument is that these thrusting red braces don't stump up all the losses when things go pear-shaped. Global stock markets are still well down on levels of 10 years ago, so most of us with pensions have lost money whilst these greedy pigs have got fat.

The entire financial sector is a social parasite, badly in need of reform.
11

The Accountant,

Rainy Fife 21/10/2009 11:07:06
Its quite obscene that an industry which had to be bailed out by HM govt is now proposing bonuses which in some instances are more than a lifetimes earnings for an average worker.

As for the example promoted by #4, did the bright young thing hand back his /her salary when the fund being managed dipped by 20% or whatever in the previous year.

Lets be frank, portfolio management is a fancy version of what thousands do in Ladbrokes and William Hill every day.
12

Jambo83,

21/10/2009 11:09:54
Here's hoping then that as an employee of one of the so-called bigger banks, that I receive a decent bonus next year. As a normal 20-something living on a very modest salary, it is US who do all the hard work at banks and try to help the Joe Bloggs of the country, not the useless half-wits sitting round the table in the board room.
13

Auldmiser,

Beith 21/10/2009 11:12:29
how can they possibly pay out a bonus and not pay interest on accounts that are giving them the money to "play" with?
14

Sedov,

21/10/2009 11:33:06
AS I posted 12 months ago - once the furore surrounding the credit crunch dies down and the banks are bailed out it will be business as usual for the fat cats.

You can moan all you want- we live in a capitalist society that cannot be tamed or reformed because the will to do so is not there among our leaders despite all the hand wringing.

Get rid of the system that creates this nonsense once and for all - but that means revolution - I'm up for it but are you?

No? well then shut up.
15

bumpkin,

21/10/2009 11:43:15
#4, canaris, a return of 7 % is improbable over 12 months. they will probably fall by 4% the following year, therefore the broker should have to pay back more than half the bonus. but he wont, and that is the problem.
16

bumpkin,

21/10/2009 11:46:17
why not put a stuffed effigy of a banker on your bonfire this year, instead of guy faulks?
call it"burn a fat cat banker" instead of guy faulks night.
17

albahomeland,

21/10/2009 11:48:16
So that's it then? Brown and Darling have failed.
18

JT,

21/10/2009 13:06:11
#11 I work in this industry and really think that you are bang out of order implying that I am a paracite! Yes it does need reform but from a government who rob the tax payer via claims for duck houses and gardeners how can this happen?
As someone who was lucky to keep their job when others in my office lost theirs I feel that the media have a lot to answer for stirring up alot of the hatred towards banks and their staff. Ordinary bank staff dont get these bonuses, we are likely to be made redundant than receive them. So back off the ordinary bank workers and vent your anger at the politicians and head of banks.
19

Sparts,

21/10/2009 13:10:39
Punishing the banks would hit everyone in the pocket,..and i mean everyone. From your pension fund to your banking charges to the service you recieve....

#11 you would have made money over the last 10 years
20

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Albany, NY 21/10/2009 13:27:12
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21

Gorgie Anthony,

21/10/2009 13:34:15
If the banks can afford to make these huge payouts, why do they need government money?
22

Buckpool Loon,

Cheshire 21/10/2009 14:23:18
#4 Canis Majoris.

Your figures are highly suspect and your calculation worse. One tenth of 1% of £700m is in fact £700k.

Also the tax take you indicate is questionable. Using the financial vehicles available it's more likely the tax paid will be in the fractions of a percent. Even the corporation tax on gross profit is manipulated down to levels that would make the average struggling business go green with envy. And as for the traders, few of them pay anything like the 40% let alone the 50% you indicate. Most keep their salaries low and only pay the 18% of capital gains on their bonuses. And they only pay that on what cannot be deferred.

Sure they have their uses, but making monkeys out of the rest of us isn't one of them. If that's the price they demand for their expertees, I'd tell them to go to hell and they can take their right to citizenship with them.
23

TWC,

exLabour 21/10/2009 14:28:15
Labour have brought us economic disaster once again, expenses fiddling and Fraud, crazy credit bubbles and no Scottish improvements.
More means testing than ever before and the outlook of huge inflation just as we had in the late 70s early 80s.
24

David Glen,

Glasgow 21/10/2009 15:29:41
Canis Majoris,

They'd already been paid to do that.

 

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