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City chiefs to pass 'urgent' measures to fill tram jobs



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Published Date: 19 November 2008
CITY councillors are set to approve "urgent" measures to keep Edinburgh's tram project on the rails.
Senior roles within tram firm TIE are currently unfilled following last week's resignation of Willie Gallagher, who was both chief executive and chairman.

The current chairman of Transport Edinburgh Limited, David Mackay, is set to take over as the firm's new interim chairman.

Council chiefs are also now looking to appoint a chief executive and further "senior professional roles" as the £512m project reaches a crucial stage.

The appointment of Mr Mackay, who is also an executive director of Lothian Buses, is set to be approved by councillors at a full council meeting tomorrow.

He paid tribute to Mr Gallagher, and said: "We are very fortunate that Willie has established a high calibre team who work to stringent standards and many of whom have been engaged on other tram schemes and major construction projects. I am very much looking forward to working more closely with this first-class team to ensure that we deliver, for the Capital, a state-of-the-art tram system which will be the envy of other leading cities."

In a report prepared for councillors, the council's chief executive, Tom Aitchison, said: "Mr Gallagher has advised me that his resignation is attributed to personal, family reasons.

"With regret, and given his personal circumstances, I have accepted his resignation.

"Members of the council are aware that the Edinburgh Tram Project is at a critical stage in the construction process.

"It is, therefore, essential that governance and management arrangements are put in place immediately to ensure the minimum possible disruption to TIE's capacity following Willie Gallagher's resignation."

He adds that "urgent consideration" needed to be given to managerial leadership and senior professional roles within TIE, including the appointment of a new chief executive.

Gordon Burgess, chairman of the Leith Walk Traders' Association, said: "I think (Mr Mackay] has got a big job on his hands because this project continues to spiral out of control."

Council leader Jenny Dawe believes Mr Mackay will ensure there is minimum disruption in the management of TIE.

She added: "Under his stewardship I am sure we will continue as planned towards our goal of a world-class public transport system for Edinburgh."

Councillor Ian Perry, the city's Labour transport spokesman, described Mr Mackay as "a safe pair of hands".

Experienced leader is the new man in charge
DAVID MACKAY was born the son of a policeman in St Andrews on May 20, 1943.

• He originally chose banking as a career, but then entered the transport field and achieved the Royal Society of Arts Diploma in transport.

• Joined John Menzies in Edinburgh in 1964, where he was subsequently appointed group chief executive in 1997.

• Appointed chairman of the Scottish Rugby Executive Board in 2003.

• Appointed Honorary Colonel of the Scottish Transport Regiment in 2004.

• Appointed chair of Transport Edinburgh Limited in 2006.

• Became the non-executive director of Express Newspapers in Scotland in January 2008 on a six-month assignment.

• Appointed an executive director of Lothian Buses in June 2008.

• Married to Jane, with two children – Katie, 25, and Euan, 24.




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  • Last Updated: 19 November 2008 10:52 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh transport plans
 
1

I love to eat Sellotape,

19/11/2008 12:04:24
What's Mr Mckay doing with that left hand of his?
2

Old Cartha Boy,

19/11/2008 12:04:31
As Chair of Transport Edinburgh Ltd and an executive director of Lothian Buses, Mr Mackay is hardly a man untouched by the current state of affairs!
3

LUVMACITY,

IN THE LOBBY 19/11/2008 12:04:39
Good luck to him in this very worthwhile project.
4

Grumpy,

19/11/2008 12:08:29
Great - all we need is an ex-banker trying to run a bus company - a bit like Andy Hornby of HBOS trying to run a bank after working for Asda.

5

Skip McClendon,

19/11/2008 12:09:16
Would it maybe have been a good idea to hire "professional staff" at the start before embarking on this scheme and pouring hundreds of millions of pounds of our money into it?

Just a thought.
6

Skip McClendon,

19/11/2008 12:13:06
Desperate urgent emergency appointments.

This sure sounds like a well run project that inspires confidence that our money is being well spent, doesn't it?
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19/11/2008 12:22:27
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19/11/2008 12:24:59
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Amenemhat,

19/11/2008 12:27:33
Surely this is just a care taking job as the trams or on time and on budget ahahhaahha
10

big man,

Longstone 19/11/2008 12:29:19
Mr Mackay ????, never heard of him, not at Lothian Buses, no doubt this was one of Neil Rennilsons cronies brought in on a good salary, if he was in banking, what does he know about transport?, us drivers in LB are at a loss as have never even heard of Mr Mackay.
11

Skip McClendon,

19/11/2008 12:30:13
#8

What a sexist comment, Foo! You have your partner chained to the kitchen sink, do you?

Conclusive proof that cycling Tramline supporters are stuck in the dark ages!
12

Bob 2,

19/11/2008 12:33:55
hold on

what happened to the Councils equal opportunites polcies?

surely this should be advertised to get the BEST MAN (or woman) for the Job ?
13

Bob 2,

19/11/2008 12:35:08
based on the CV, what hands on experience has he had in the transport industry

whats a bus ?
14

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19/11/2008 12:37:05
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Skip McClendon,

19/11/2008 12:38:15
#14

Well that's alright then.
16

Skip McClendon,

19/11/2008 12:39:59
The Captain of the Titanic was a professional too. Look what White Star Officials telling him to speed up did there.
17

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19/11/2008 12:42:55
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Skip McClendon,

19/11/2008 12:44:29
#17

Apollo 13?
19

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19/11/2008 12:53:06
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roadstohell,

19/11/2008 13:04:46
rugby/banks I am confused !!!!

What has all that got to do with running a transport project ?????

And dear Mr Mackay , to be honest, doesn't look as though he has ever been a passenger on any form of public transport in his life !!!!

ach well he will resign/get booted out soon, and have a nice wee sum added to his retirement nestegg, then he can build a train set in his loft, sigh :0/
21

Bob 2,

19/11/2008 13:06:42
what are half these comments about today

maybe Gorgie_tony comments aren't that bad?

22

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 13:07:10
Put a newsagent in charge.

TIE's Diddies pointing skyward soon.

#18 Nobody wants the trams, no matter how many comments you post.
23

Bob 2,

19/11/2008 13:09:34
how many bosses does TIE,TEL and Lothian Buses actually have between them.

Too many chiefs and not enough indians

and you can find the Cowboys in the holes at the Tramworks sites !
24

scotsol,

Edinburgh 19/11/2008 13:10:55
#24 - nobody wants trams? Have you been reading these postings over the years?
25

roadstohell,

19/11/2008 13:11:15
Mind you my colleague reminds me that, ALL this is about making money, and indeed in that respect, the tram scheme has been a roaring success !

Well that's alright then, I'll stop making a fuss about nothing,I obviously know nothing about how the world works, cogs within cogs etc.

So we should all shut up and let these professionals get on with, making money !!!!!!!!!!

there , I feel better now.

Bigger have little fleas
upon their back to bite them
and little fleas have lesser fleas
and so, ad infinitum

:0)

26

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19/11/2008 13:13:23
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Bob 2,

19/11/2008 13:13:53
So we should all shut up and let these professionals get on with,

we have and look at the state of Edinburghs Roads and Bus Company because of these professionals

breweries come to mind

28

Bob 2,

19/11/2008 13:15:51
Foo

funny everyone at my work is sick of the tramworks around their houses.

utility works that should have been finished months ago is still going on.

anyway whats this go to do with this article!
29

roadstohell,

19/11/2008 13:17:12
I think that they have got Father Jack there !

I wonder what he was saying when that picture was taken ? or even if he knew where,why he was there ?

He looks sleepy, someone should get a warm blanket for him
30

fresian,

edinburgh 19/11/2008 13:18:17
Bob, I was at the Caley beer festival this year and thought it was very well organised.
31

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19/11/2008 13:22:11
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Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 13:23:32
#28

Trams are from a keeping coal in the bath era like the 50s.

You're just another internet-addicted midlife crisis.
33

Statsman,

Edinburgh 19/11/2008 13:25:40
I hate this tram project.
34

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 13:28:31
#36

Everybody hates the tram project. I don't see it being completed though.
35

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19/11/2008 13:31:28
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lulach mac gille coemgain,

19/11/2008 13:33:21
When the CEO and Chairman resigns - it’s a sure fire sign that everything is fine at the top and no-one should suspect anything untoward !
37

fresian,

edinburgh 19/11/2008 13:33:53
Foo,

I doubt you will ever use it as it will go nowhere near the Andrew Duncan Clinic where you share a ward with Jenny Macarthur
38

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19/11/2008 13:37:29
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roadstohell,

19/11/2008 13:39:28
Has anyone been keeping the score ?

It seems that TRAM is played like cricket, with a new batsman every so often, who does nothing much for far too long, then saunters off for tea & cream scones, to the sound of desultory applause, and with the new person in charge carrying the hope of a miracle.


Or maybe like rugby, where everyone gets a chance to fumble the ball ! :0)
40

Look on the Bright side,

19/11/2008 13:44:29
It'll be a shame when the project is finished as there'll be nothing to comment on. As part of a campaign to generate a new transport initiative to commennt on, do you think the airport should put a 2nd runway for the in the Meadows?
41

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 13:44:42
#35

I think you'll find Edinburgh had them too and scrapped them in 1956 - edinburgh was just ahead of the curve.

You probably live in Tranent and have a door in your bath.
42

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19/11/2008 13:51:11
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observer9,

19/11/2008 13:54:10
One person leaves and they're are jobs (plural) to fill.

Only in the public sector eh?

44

The Judge,

19/11/2008 13:55:08
I wonder if he's a Freemason?

From his CV above it looks like he's never had to apply for a job in his life, every single one of them was an "appointment"

White middle class, middle England, rugby supporting ex banker.

Equal opportunity in action.

As for the other appointments it feels like some people are filling their boots before the project is mothballed (very)early 2009.

I'm surprised Cardownie hasn't managed to find himself a nice wee part time number with TIE.
45

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 13:55:30
#45
Point is Edinburgh doesn't need trams. If it did it would still have them.

These midlife crisis internet addicts aren't half slow on the uptake

46

I love to eat Sellotape,

19/11/2008 14:00:45
Do you really want an answer?
47

fresian,

edinburgh 19/11/2008 14:03:03
I think he is implying that you need a special bath cos you can't climb over the side and that your bathroom is accessed via a Thora Hird stairlift, with a dancing mouse on it. You probably go for days out at the seaside in a special bus as well.
48

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 14:04:18
#49

Many reasons of which here's two:

- for egress

- as a surfboard.

49

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 14:08:28
Dear Santa,

Werther's Originals
Baffies
Specs that make a noise when you clap
A brown cardigan with suedette elbow patches
Glucosamine sulphate selection box
50

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 14:09:53
Katie, Euan - if you're reading this, sorry but your daddy he a bad man he make trams.
51

World class concrete,

19/11/2008 14:10:37
#38 Foo: don't you dare pretend to speak for everyone in Edinburgh!
52

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 14:13:24
Jane - if you're reading this, sorry, but you married a tram(p)

"Gizza million quid for a cuppa tea"

"No, you'll only spend it on ill-advised light-rail infrastructure in a misguided attempt at making Edinburgh 'vibrant' "

"Ah'm no raging alky bamstik"
53

Beergut,

Embra 19/11/2008 14:18:53
Maybe he can tell us why there is absolutely nothing happening at the foot of the Mound - no workies, no machinery, not even holes in the ground - nothing but Princes Street is still all coned off and buses etc. diverted. I didn't see organisational skills in the man's CV so maybe that explains it.
54

JulesF,

Kirkliston 19/11/2008 14:22:33
All aboard the gravy tram, ding ding!
55

Serious,

19/11/2008 14:26:43
Give the man a shovel and send him to the Haymarket chasm. Get digging and we'll see if we can get the hole UNESCO world heritage status.

56

roadstohell,

19/11/2008 14:27:35
Comrade Citizens, it has come to the notice of the "Boss" that certain subversive scum are trying to incite counter revolutionary dissent,by slandering the glorious mass transportation our beloved city is building.
This is Treason, and shall be dealt with severely.

Anyone caught giving anything other than 110% to this project WILL BE SHOT

57

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 19/11/2008 14:28:44
Did UNESCO have anyting enlightening to say regarding this lunatic project when they 'visited' this woebegone Town last week?

May I suggest that TIE, et al appoint 'Buttress' as chief executive and 'Rap' as chairman. Their appointment would surely bring this crazy venture to a rapid close.

58

Proximo,

19/11/2008 14:45:28
This is outrageous; it's nearly 3pm and neither ccc or any of his sychophants have written the boring housing market comment yet. Or if they have I have been unable to find it so far today, can anyone help?

It's not on; I mean, how long does it take to cut and paste the last comment he wrote anyway, pure laziness...
59

roadstohell,

19/11/2008 14:55:06
psychophants
60

James (1),

19/11/2008 15:04:42
#62 No you don't have to wait until it empties. You make choices in life. Like Foo, he used the internet to get himself a wife. Now this saved him breath, cause those dolls dont stay up forever. He bought the model that cannot drive.
Any way you can open the door but you will have a lot of cleaning up to do afterwards.
All down to choices.
61

Incandescent,

19/11/2008 15:09:11
I see that Jenny and Tony are away together on holiday again...
62

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 15:10:04
#62

Think laterally.

Oldster opens door.
Water spills out onto floor.
Bathroom has a plughole in centre of room.
No harm done, Thora's bath empties in seconds, leaving plenty of time for chores like collecting thimbles and listening to CDs by The Ting Tings.
63

fresian,

edinburgh 19/11/2008 15:17:13
mario, I don't know what you get up to in old Amsterdam, but the comment on the Gail Porter story about Michelle McManus's puss was bad enough, I don't even want to imagine Thora Hird in that way.
64

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19/11/2008 15:17:44
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Skip McClendon,

19/11/2008 15:28:25
#70

Elastic binding her to the sink too tight?
66

roadstohell,

19/11/2008 15:32:10
City chiefs to pass 'urgent' measures to fill boots before it's too late !

67

James (1),

19/11/2008 15:37:45
#70 Foo a puncture is not passing away! Have you thought about inflation lately? I told you to keep the puncture kit but no, you know best.
68

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 15:38:04
"I'm the driver of this tram"

"No you're not, you look only about 15, and a scientologist"

"I'm a fast aluminium worker"

69

roadstohell,

19/11/2008 15:39:59
Scientologists to run TRAM project
70

roadstohell,

19/11/2008 15:42:18
can we not stipulate a bachelor with no extant relatives for this post ?
71

James (1),

19/11/2008 15:44:39
What are these personal family reasons?

Could it be the wife tells Willie, you better get yourself away from this fiasco a quickly as possible or you are going to be dragged down with it.

Word of warning to train drivers. You could end up being approached to take over the running of the tram line as you are, going on past experience, over qualified.
Remember that you can always use the "personal" reason to abandon ship.
72

fresian,

edinburgh 19/11/2008 15:50:41
James, Foo took the doll back to the shop to complain about the puncture.

"It went down on me!" Foo said.

"If I'd known it could do that, I would have charged you an extra tenner for it" replied the shopkeeper
73

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 15:55:13
Wullie Gallagher had to leave after a fight with his younger brother over who was to sing their next Beatles inspired ditty "Standing On The Shoulder Of Trams"
74

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 15:55:59
# 76

Any bachelors with no extant relatives (rubber or otherwise) in the comments today?
75

roadstohell,

19/11/2008 15:56:21
Mhh just wondering , what happened to "john menzies" again ? did it go bust ?

however, I hear that stationary is a hot seller just now, especially "broon envelopes" !!!!!!!!!!!
76

James (1),

19/11/2008 16:03:12
#80 It is the duty of every journalist to make enquiry into a public figure when they use "personal reasons" for bailing out of a multimillion pound venture.

Now I know this takes us away from the people who work for the Evening News but there must be a paper who still employs journalists?

This "personal reasons" needs to be investigated instead of accepting it as if it was impossible to make such a thing up.
77

James (1),

19/11/2008 16:13:35
#88 Nah! That is too much like hard work.
For personal reasons I choose to let him keep the money he has got for his hard work and wish him well in his future..........Nah! I cannot keep this up.
When days does his buckets get emptied?
78

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 16:14:38
#84

John Menzies is alive and well - they are still on Princes Street if you look close enough.

Waterstones is owned by HMV - if you are in Waterstones and you need a wee wee or perchance a jobby you need a code for the bogs.

Buy online and you can use your own bog. And not pay £3 for coffee.
79

Cod,

19/11/2008 16:17:09
#90

What's the code? Come on, Come on don't withold it. I'm bursting!
80

Cod,

19/11/2008 16:17:35
Quickly.
81

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 16:18:06
http://www.johnmenziesplc.com/about-us/contact-us.php
82

Cod,

19/11/2008 16:18:31
Too late. One man dirty protest.
83

Cod,

19/11/2008 16:24:55
I once went to Livingston. I regretted it. Although some may say every nation needs a Milton Keynes. Those people are of course inevitably sectioned.
84

Cod,

19/11/2008 16:25:34
Am I talking to me? Am I talking to me?
85

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 16:26:33
#91

the Polish girl at the Starbucks concession holds the code. I can't remember it. it might have been p-1-s-h-j-0-b-b-y
86

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 16:36:42
TIE need to:

Imediately conduct an operational audit
Publish clear financial report on current situation

87

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 16:37:04
Ice cram with a flake in it
88

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 16:37:37
treble twenty
treble twenty
double twenty
89

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19/11/2008 17:03:56
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Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 17:08:37
#101

Does she wear a blazer and smell of foosty cheese?
91

Euan,

Edinburgh 19/11/2008 17:31:41
If I felt that the project David Mackay is about to take the reigns of was worthwhile and necessary then I would wish him the best of luck.

Sadly, Edinburgh's tram project is probably one of the greatest examples, if not THE greatest example of squandering valuable taxpayers money on a worthless cause.

Mr Mackay has already proved he is way off the mark with his ridiculous statement saying that the tram LINE will be a 'world-class public transport system for Edinburgh'.

The alarm bells are already ringing..

..in fact they have been ringing for the last 2 years.

SPARE US ALL, SAVE OUR MONEY AND SCRAP THIS SILLY VANITY PROJECT NOW.


92

jdships,

Edinburgh 19/11/2008 17:33:04
Was this job ever advertised ?
If not why not ?
Equal opportunities and all that or does it not apply to Edinburgh Council.
93

Euan,

Edinburgh 19/11/2008 17:34:14
Sorry, correction, Jenny Dawe said 'world-class public transport system for Edinburgh'.

Mr Mackay said 'a state-of-the-art tram system which will be the envy of other leading cities' - eh?, what planet is he on??!


94

rs,

's are making alot of nonsense comments 19/11/2008 17:36:17
its amazing, despite all these highly paid

He paid tribute to Mr Gallagher, and said: "We are very fortunate that Willie has established a high calibre team who work to stringent standards and many of whom have been engaged on other tram schemes and major construction projects.

So why is Edinburgh in Such a mess

Mr Mackay was Appointed an executive director of Lothian Buses in June 2008, why isn't his "expertise" being used to sort out the mess that Lothian Buses are in just now.

Promotion to the company that has caused most of Lothian buses financial problems.


and at least another 3 plus years of this

will there be anything left of Lothian Buses in 3 years.
95

rs,

in ma house 19/11/2008 17:37:11
the comments are so bad now, that even GT has given up.
96

Maxibus,

19/11/2008 17:39:56
The first tram has arrived
97

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 17:40:11
Everybody hates the trams.

TIE - PUBLISH YOUR FINANCIAL REPORT IMMEDIATELY.

TIE - THEN PUT THE TRAM WORKS ON HOLD, AND WALK QUIETLY AWAY.

98

Old Cartha Boy,

GRANTON by LES TRAMS 19/11/2008 17:48:25
At least we've saved ourselves ab ullet that was earmarked for Willie G...I'm misisng his smug face and platitudes already!
99

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 17:48:52

Tram chiefs were left red-faced yesterday after it emerged that they have naturally red faces caused by "weathered red jolly farmer-face-itis".

Gregor Vomitus of transport consultants Vomitus Transport Consulting said yesterday:

"Red faces can have many reasons - their principal use is as a tabloid headline ready metaphor for embarrassment. Off the record, my mother is a hamster."

Tramless roads, including Princes Street, were thronged with Christmas shoppers yesterday.

Alison Panty-Snorkel, a systems analyst from Morningside said "I'm agnostic about the trams. they've got them in some places but not in Whitburn or Belgrade. We need a public transport solution, not a mixter maxter of half-solutions hithering and thithering across the city like so many beagles"
100

rs,

in ma house 19/11/2008 17:50:09
105 Euan

not this planet, heard that they've put £5m on Shergar to win the next grand national at 100,000 to 1, jockeyed by Lord Lucan.

Hoping that they can pay for this Tram Network that they keep telling us about, even TIEs website talks about a Network, talk about trades description.


108 Maxibus, 19/11/2008 17:39:56
The first tram has arrived... and its was years late!

101

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 17:51:41

Rowley Birkin QC was unavailable for comment.
102

roadstohell,

19/11/2008 18:03:45
Niko, are you one of the balkan bellic's ?
was that your cousin I saw you with last night ? serge trousersoff ?
103

roadstohell,

19/11/2008 18:06:04
No sadly these clowns will persevere right to our bitter end !!!!

You see it really is all a matter of "mind over matter", "they don't mind and we don't matter "

104

Niko Bellic,

19/11/2008 18:08:52
#114

Eh?
105

rs,

. a braw CV he's got 19/11/2008 18:12:30
yip its some CV he's got for Running a Public Transport Business.

Experienced leader is the new man in charge
DAVID MACKAY was born the son of a policeman in St Andrews on May 20, 1943.

• He originally chose banking as a career, but then entered the transport field and achieved the Royal Society of Arts Diploma in transport (unknown, could have been doing a MILK ROUND for all we know)

• Joined John Menzies in Edinburgh in 1964, where he was subsequently appointed group chief executive in 1997. (retail)


• Appointed chairman of the Scottish Rugby Executive Board in 2003. (Rugby)

• Appointed Honorary Colonel of the Scottish Transport Regiment in 2004. (Army Logistics)

• Appointed chair of Transport Edinburgh Limited in 2006.

• Became the non-executive director of Express Newspapers in Scotland in January 2008 on a six-month assignment. (Paper Boy !)

• Appointed an executive director of Lothian Buses in June 2008.

• Married to Jane, with two children – Katie, 25, and Euan, 24 (and what this go to do with the Price of a Tram).

So basically

he's sold papers, done a bit of rugby and done a paper job.

2 years at TIE & Lothian Buses..... its really frightening.

Great CV for running a Tram & Bus Company.

I here the cleaner gets £35kpa for 2 day week!

And he's probably never been on a bus , never mind driven one.

The Great Tram Scam.

could be an Idea for a new St Trinians film!
106

Maxibus,

19/11/2008 18:21:08
Honest, the first tram has arrived. Production is in full swing in Spain.
107

Maxibus,

19/11/2008 18:23:03
The rails are on there way from Germany.
108

Maxibus,

19/11/2008 18:23:52
Too late to cancel, sorry.

109

roadstohell,

19/11/2008 19:04:19
heheheheh

now what I have heard is this;
all the Carillon plans have been in metres, and the rail people & tram people have been working in metres, so far so good.

'cept the Carillon folk have calculated 1metre = 36 inches, oooohhhhh :0/

Damn it, the utilities will still lie under the tram lines after all !!!!!!!!!!!!!


110

roadstohell,

19/11/2008 19:07:54
Ms Somerville, an SNP MSP, issued the following statement: "Residents of the city of Edinburgh will breathe a sigh of relief to hear that common sense has finally prevailed.

"Pressing ahead with another line was sheer lunacy and I am delighted that Tie finally agree with what the SNP have been saying all along."

"There was never going to be enough money to complete the Line 1a, never mind develop other routes.

"This project will go down as one very expensive unfinished white elephant in our capital city.
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James (1),

19/11/2008 20:06:41
#101 I would like to send my sincere congratulations to Foo and his newly acquired wife and hope their new financial arrangement makes both of them very happy. I recall Foo having purchased a wife on the internet sometime ago but sadly she was found to be slim but dim. This woman could not drive. That is a warning to us all. Read the small print because Paypal does not want to know. It cannot be easy for a person such as Foo to lose one wife with no recourse to a refund. Let’s hope Customs are understanding and present no barriers to entry. They don’t normally, so this should be but a formality. Until then Foo remember, deep breaths, in through the nose and out through the valve. (Does new Mrs Foo know about the doll?)
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Ian down under,

Musselburgh 19/11/2008 20:42:24
I remember as a teenager going to work in Edinburgh on the 132 bus from Musselburgh. I used to overhear all the old ladies who got on around Newington moan on about everything and everybody. The traffics bad, ma bunions are sore, it's all the fault of these young folk, Crawfords cream doughnuts are not as good as they used to be etc etc.
If you beleive in reincarnation then these old dears shuffled off many years ago and have sprouted again as anti-trammers.
In a fe generations they will be anti plasma transporters or something.
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Maxibus,

19/11/2008 22:22:22
Oh dear! Seems Ms Somerville is talking rubbish.
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La5t_minit,

19/11/2008 22:30:37
'Iceberg, What iceberg.....'

Woop, Woop, Woop. Mayday, Mayday.. Anyone got a cork for this hole?