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Residents fight plan for six-storey block overlooking homes



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Published Date: 24 September 2008
RESIDENTS are fighting plans for a six-storey block of flats just metres from their homes.
Householders in Dalry's Caledonian Crescent claim the 26-flat development will starve them of natural sunlight, add to congestion and rob them of privacy as the new owners will be able to peer into their living rooms.

They are now pleading with councillors not to give planning permission for the development opposite their 150-year-old tenement.

Sylvia Taylor, 56, a resident of 35 years, said: "This is about our lives and how much this would affect them. These are our homes and it's simply not fair."

Social housing group Dunedin Canmore wants to build the flats, with balconies, on a strip of grassed land at the back of Caledonian Crescent, adjacent to Morrison Crescent and parallel to the West Approach Road.

The development – 18.5 metres from the tenement – would overlook the current communal gardens – where half of residents look out of their one or two-bedroom properties.

Nearly 100 objections have reached the council over the plans, which are to be discussed for a final time next Wednesday.

Complaints focus on privacy issues, loss of sunlight, shortages of green space, noise and the potential for crime to increase as the tenement's communal stairway and garden is seen as a short-cut to the new development.

Anke Stahl, 41, who has lived in her Caledonian Crescent flat with her partner and two children for 12 years, said she was angry that another development is planned at all for the area.

She said: "It's so greedy. Councillors don't seem to care because they don't live here. So much is being stripped from the area. This is our lives they are dealing with.

"Children use this grassed area – it's the only place they can play. Where will they go now?"

Residents believe with 26 flats overlooking their properties they will no longer be able to make full use of their communal garden.

Resident Amanda Hutcheson, 31, added: "People will be able to look into our garden and homes and we'll get very little sunlight.

"Our garden is our only green space. There is nowhere else for us to go."

Although council officers insist studies show the tenements will still meet required levels of average daylight, residents say they have been advised they will have to rely on electric lights in winter. Mrs Taylor added: "I have been told that I probably will have problems selling my house if I want to. But this really isn't about money, it's about standards of living."

Councillors will visit the site on Thursday, ahead of next week's planning committee. The development is recommended for approval by officials.


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  • Last Updated: 24 September 2008 1:15 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh planning issues
 
1

alex paterson,

edinburgh 24/09/2008 12:20:10
Get use to it,this is progress and it happens everywhere.
2

Randan,

24/09/2008 12:27:56
Building over grass play areas is NOT progress, just another step only the Obesity highway.
And what will the kids do with no play area - get into trouble cos they have nothing to do.
Progess my @rse.
3

The Pragmatist,

edinburgh 24/09/2008 12:34:08
yes, get used to it. folk complain about a lack of affordable housing, so it has to get built somewhere. anyway, anything would help perk up Caledonian Crescent - it is a miserable street in a miserable grubby area, full of whining benefit recipients and unpleasant, educationally challenged children
4

john3,

24/09/2008 12:34:41
When they bought their properties did their legal agents
advise them as to adjoining property status? For once I agree with #1. It is never until it is on their doorstep that people consider fairness. We have no right to light in Scotland or to use land that belongs to another for recreational purposes and then complain
when it is developed. Blinds or nets for their windows?
5

Howard Moon,

24/09/2008 12:46:50
'Householders in Dalry's Caledonian Crescent claim the 26-flat development will starve them of natural sunlight'

Is there any other kind of sunlight? Sorry to nitpick but this story pretty much deserves it.

'Although council officers insist studies show the tenements will still meet required levels of average daylight, residents say they have been advised they will have to rely on electric lights in winter'

Eh? Has Dalry been immune up to now to the effects of seasonal change? I've always found electric lights are needed more in winter, what with it getting dark earlier and such.
6

Diana,

Edinburgh 24/09/2008 12:52:34
With that many objections, the council shouldn't approve the plans, let alone even consider them.

Why is it that if you live in a house, even one objection can have an affect on a building permit, but when a developer comes along, they seem to have free reign regardless of who objects?

This council has double standards!
7

They call me mr positive,

Corstorphine 24/09/2008 12:59:19
#3 - as a small (2 properties) buy-to-let landlord in that area I am glad that i never accepted your council when i made my investments. That area had such btl potential when i bought in the early noughties. since then: gone is the clock inn and various other bludger (mancunian word) problems and nice restuarants are gradually expanding along dalry road.

#6 with that position, no new build would ever happen in the city.

a good compromise in this situation would be a 4 storey build - g, 1, 2, 3 (just like all the other properties in the area).

Mr Positive
8

PaulB,

Edinburgh 24/09/2008 13:13:48
I think the objections are more likley because it is social housing which is planned for the site, and the type of people who may be living there - let's face it' it's not Barnton is it?
9

D2,

24/09/2008 13:42:56
#6 Boy, do you miss the point. The quantity of objections is totally irrelevent- it is the points the objections make and whether they are important.
O course the council has to consider the objections -they will simply ignore the ones that are stupid.
#2 there is a world of difference between 'kids play on the grass' and the grass being a 'play area'.
10

D2,

24/09/2008 13:44:50
Children use this grassed area – it's the only place they can play. Where will they go now?"
Um....possibly the communal gardens?
11

D2,

24/09/2008 13:44:50
Children use this grassed area – it's the only place they can play. Where will they go now?"
Um....possibly the communal gardens?
12

The Judge,

24/09/2008 14:27:01
Is the development within the tramLINE catchment area?

If so there is no point in complaining, the council will grant planning permission as long as the bribe, sorry public transport contribution is high enough.

They don't have a choice.
13

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24/09/2008 14:30:11
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14

Mallory,

Edinburgh 24/09/2008 15:32:52
Happens all the time in Edinburgh. Sell off green space to property developers on the promise of a bung for the trams and build masses of cheapo boxes for the buy-to-let market. With these five storeys can easily be crammed into the same height as four old tenements.

Add in the obligatory artisan workshop(s), specialist shops and a supermarket not forgetting a few hostileries and of couse a luxury hotel...

And what about the planned 17 story hotel at Haymarket?
15

JFW,

New Town 24/09/2008 17:35:50
These things are always progress for the folks who aren't affected by them. You have a right to be upset if you've lived in a place most of your life and then the council decide to squeeze social housing into your back garden. The very least the council could do in this instance (when they force it through) is to only build to the level of the neighbouring blocks - 6 stories sounds a bit much.
16

JFW,

New Town 24/09/2008 17:38:08
It could be worse for the neighbours; they might have had a 300 bed student accommodation forced on them as has been done in other areas. I'd take social housing any day.
17

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 24/09/2008 18:13:47
I would think it is more a fear of who will be staying in the flats than anything else.

Most of new tenants for council houses seem to be druggies or problems tenants or immigrants that move in their granny and uncles with them.

How sad as there are nice tenants around too but they are dwindling.
18

Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 24/09/2008 18:29:09
18.5 metres - that really isn't much space, about three car lengths. Trying running that length as kid - by the time you are up to full-speed you will end up running into a wall, let alone flowers or bushes.
19

bluehead,

edinburgh 08/10/2008 11:59:22
they don't appear to care what they destroy in Edinburgh,what a shame!!!!!!!!!!
20

One-man-bucket's older twin,

19/10/2008 14:11:04
Good luck to them. The Fountainpark development has gobbled up a green space, a playground, and when finished, will cut all the sunlight from both the front and the back of several tenements. Apparently you can only protest as the reduction of DAYlight, not SUNlight.
21

daveserviceman,

edinburgh 20/10/2008 10:48:48
I think the objections are from people who are just snobs and look down on people in social housing. I think these people forget where they came from.
As regards to the supposed hotel in the haymarket this will not be built the land has been bought by someone else and it is going to be a car breakers yard,
as for the war memorial this is going to be replaced in the same spot is at now but maybe back a couple of metres but remain it will.

 

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