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Council defies protests and wields axe over Grassmarket poplar trees



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Published Date: 18 October 2008
IT is a controversial move which has delayed a multi-million pound project by several weeks.
But the fate of five poplar trees in the Grassmarket has finally been sealed after the city council decided to stick to its original plan to chop them down and replace them.

Experts have found some decay in the trees, and say they could only last a few more years. But dozens of residents protested against the move, forcing city chiefs to hold two public meetings.

Their pleas were in vain, however, and work will start on Monday, replacing the trees with mature lime and oak trees imported from Germany. They hope the project will be completely finished by the first week in December.

City centre councillor Joanna Mowat, who chairs the Grassmarket Forum, said: "Obviously there'll be some people who will be very disappointed, but I think this is the sensible solution. In the long term, this is the best way of providing green cover for the Grassmarket for the next 100 years.

"The council has listened to people, and this seems to be the best option. No one knows what the lifespan of these trees is. The one thing that has come through loud and clear is that people want green cover for the Grassmarket."

Residents and traders met council officials last week to discuss four options, which included keeping some of the trees. But Dave Anderson, director of city development, said retaining one or more poplars would include "unacceptable risks" and would have high maintenance costs.

He said: "The disadvantage of this is that the paving works would remain incomplete, the risk may be unacceptable, the maintenance costs would be higher and the retained poplar may affect the growth of the new trees in the group. If the work proceeds without further delay, we will be completed in time for the 2008 festive period. At this time we will have 15 healthy, safe and sustainable trees in the Grassmarket."

He said they would be installing festive lighting in the three large London plane trees, as in previous years.

Most traders are supporting replacing the trees, and say it makes sense to carry out the work while they have the money.

Bill Cowen, who runs Costume HaHa and is a member of the Old Town Community Council, said: "I can understand that some people are very emotionally attached to the trees, but you can't please everybody all the time. At the end of the day there is a compelling argument for replacing the trees.

"The ones they have put in already look lovely. I think a lot of the opposition was based on misinformation. Poplars are not the most suitable tree for this space, as they don't like being cut back.

"This will provide green cover for the Grassmarket for about £6000 a tree, whereas it could cost £18,000 each to replace them in ten years' time."


The full article contains 496 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 18 October 2008 10:41 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh planning issues
 
1

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 18/10/2008 12:13:52
Flip me over backwards ! I honestly can't believe the amount of pussyfooting about over small issues ....

They ram trams down our throats at £600 million but stop and waver about a couple of trees - this council just doesn't have a clue what it wants to be .....
2

Autism Rights,

Ayrshire 18/10/2008 12:24:09
£6,000 per tree!!! They have got to be kidding! Imported all the way from Germany! Come on - if you contacted any of the many Scottish tree nurseries or groups, you would get a native tree for a fraction of this price. Some rowans, or hazels or geans would also have been nice.

Whoever advises Edinburgh City Council should know that indigenous trees have greater benefit than those grown from non-native seed, whether or not they are trees, such as sessile oak, that are species that are native to Scotland.
3

Unimpressed one,

18/10/2008 12:39:51
Imported from Germany? think of the nasty carbon footprint this will cause. And WTF are "sustainable trees"? Green-speak for trees that grow?
4

john3,

18/10/2008 12:55:31
Why why why
5

Evia,

18/10/2008 13:28:59
2 Autism Rights

Good post.

It never ceases to amaze me that we have so many numpties in the council who will believe anything consultants tell them. There must be someone within the Council's Parks Unit who could have advised what trees should replace the poplars It is a pity they must come down but, if they are diseased and cannot be treated, there is no option but to replace them.
6

MickyFinn,

Livingston 18/10/2008 13:36:03
#5 Yes replace them, but at what cost?
7

PaulB,

Edinburgh 18/10/2008 14:34:03
Out with the old - in with the new! The Grassmarket is going to look fantastic when the work is finished - and new trees can only enhance the environment.
8

Evia,

18/10/2008 14:34:10
6 MickyFinn

Micky, I am sure they could be replaced with trees native to Scotland, at a much lower cost. I am sure that they wouldn't cost anything like £6,000 per tree.

I am still with 2 Autism Rights on this one.
9

Louis Catorze,

18/10/2008 15:44:04
#6...about 6000 per tree..
10

jdships,

Edinburgh 18/10/2008 18:33:48
£6000 a tree , an open cheque for furniture , an open cheque for tramways and so it goes on
putting aside the army of "advisors" employed by the Council surely they should be required to prove they can think for themselves in a business like manner
Almost every day there is more proof of a complete lack of business acumen among our Council .
Surely before they put themselves forward they need to have more than a degree in "Self gratification"

On a serious point
The worrying thing is that these people are only accountable to you and I when an election comes along .
11

Kitti Kat,

18/10/2008 22:01:21
*Oak trees are dirty and drop leaves for what seems from autumn to spring then sprout green leaves. I love trees but oaks are not all that great. Why not just replace the pooplar trees with more poplar trees if it is necessary.
12

Douglas,

Bathgate 18/10/2008 22:28:09
The poplar is certainly more popular than the pooplar with the populus. Pip pip :o)
13

Krypto,

Edinburgh 18/10/2008 22:30:54
Idiot council. When are the axemen coming? We should tie ourselves to the trees. Or better still, the council officials.
14

Douglas,

Bathgate 18/10/2008 23:10:29
If we tie ourselves to council officials do we get free soup and sandwiches too?
15

Against crooked Councilors,

18/10/2008 23:26:45
The Edinburgh Council is corrupt, why dont people listen
16

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 18/10/2008 23:48:06
fourteen.thousand.dollars..a.tree.dear.god
17

grantcat,

Old Town 19/10/2008 01:20:43
Look what Joni Mitchell has to say on the matter.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ueVpCfPAog4
18

Epicuras,

19/10/2008 08:57:38
surely not the old dieseased/decaying trees line again - nobody's believed that old chesnut for years!
why can't we import a new council from germany instead?
19

mystic,

Edinburgh 19/10/2008 10:12:11
This council just likes to waste our money. Why don't they just have some common sense?

www.SeeingEdinburgh.co.uk
20

The Real Pa Broon,

Glebe Street 19/10/2008 12:23:02
Folk from Bathgate can spell?
21

One-man-bucket's older twin,

19/10/2008 14:07:05
It would seem only trees are allowed a carbon footprint.
Can I use my car if there's a tree on the roof-rack?
22

The Squirrel,

Grassmarket 19/10/2008 17:50:51
The poplar trees, well I'm not much bothered by the council hacking them down. Oak trees are better loci for copulation and sleeping.
23

C Tree PO,

Poplar Ave 19/10/2008 19:20:06
Shouldn't the residents of the Grassmarket environs be focussing their energies into the removal of junkies, beggars and drunks instead of worrying about a few trees? I've never heard of a tree throwing up, threatening passers by or demanding money with menaces. Perhaps it's time to leaf it alone..?
24

The Squirrel,

Grassmarket 19/10/2008 20:07:51
It's the pigeons they want to kill, not trees. This'll not be a poplar decision.
25

Douglas,

Bathgate 19/10/2008 20:55:21
#20 Yew noticed.
26

Heather B,

Anstruther 20/10/2008 10:20:42
Sounds like the council are barking... up the wrong tree. six grand a tree ? I could get you some cheaper than that. How about a Christmas tree - there's a Xmas shop open year round.
27

Hmm?,

20/10/2008 11:49:38
Got to laugh at all the sudden tree experts who have appeared and of course know how much it costs to buy a tree... *rolls eyes*

You people haven't a f**king clue how much a mature tree costs to buy and have delivered and planted.
28

Hettie,

25/11/2008 12:54:19
I like lime trees. The flowers have a nice scent. But won't it be too cold for them in the summer?

I completely agree with 23 and 27.

 

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