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City chiefs say bill for running a capital is extra £33m a year



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Published Date: 11 September 2008
THE cost of running a capital city has been put at nearly £33 million a year by council leaders as they hand ministers their "shopping list" for extra funding.
It is the first time a figure has been placed on the extra burden borne by Edinburgh, because of what it does for the whole of Scotland.

Finance Secretary John Swinney has already pledged to introduce a new "capital city supplement" in the Scottish Government's next budget, and the council's study will now be sent to ministers for consideration.

The expensive wish-list is known to have raised eyebrows among civil servants, and is likely to prove unpopular with other Scottish councils. However, business chiefs in Edinburgh today said the sum should be even higher than £33m.

In the submission, council chiefs warn that unless they can respond to Edinburgh's "growing demands", the whole country will suffer.

Council leader Jenny Dawe said: "The unique elements of additional expenditure are not merely desirable, but essential to maintaining Edinburgh's role as an iconic national capital in an increasingly competitive global market.

"An investment in Edinburgh is, quite simply, investing in Scotland's future prosperity.

"I wanted to ensure that we make a really good case.

"We don't want Glasgow and Aberdeen turning around and saying 'that's nothing to do with being a capital city'."

She added: "I have no doubt that John Swinney is genuine in his desire to look at this."

The council has analysed the experience of Westminster Council, which receives several million pounds extra, in reaching its conclusion.

Much of the evidence also focuses on the summer and winter festivals, and the figures include the running costs for the events as well as the need to improve the theatres and venues that help to stage them. The high number of events that are staged in the Capital – from conferences to royal visits to protest marches – are included, as are the costs of looking after a world heritage site.

The total revenue costs are put at £10.67m, with long-term capital borrowing costs placed at £266m, or £22.17m per year.

This includes money for Meadowbank Stadium, the Royal Commonwealth Pool, Edinburgh Zoo, the city's transport network, and more affordable houses.

Without this, the council says, Edinburgh's economic growth will suffer because workers cannot afford to buy properties.

Ron Hewitt, chief executive of the Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce, said: "In some cases, we believe the figures quoted are extremely low – £500,000 for public realm improvements and £1.3m for affordable housing will not go far in a city short of 10,000 homes and with miles of patched and unsightly roads and pavements."

A Scottish Government spokesman said: "We look forward to receiving the City of Edinburgh Council's report in time to consider it as part of the local government settlement for 2009-10."


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  • Last Updated: 11 September 2008 12:58 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh Council
 
1

allknowing,

11/09/2008 11:55:37
What do the police do. If anything they shoudl be getting less.

No they have passed the buck to the council in terms of noise complaints, parking and now antisocial behavoiur (ASBOS).

So more pay wanted for doing less work. Mmmm.. someones on the fiddle. I suppose LBP need to pay for their diversity camp!!
2

Boswall,

11/09/2008 12:22:55
Regardless of which pot the money comes out of it's a joke for the council to go begging for 33m extra/year after spending 700m (and counting) on an unpopular and unnecessary vanity project.
3

ST170,

11/09/2008 12:23:23
#1 or should I say *rse.

Have a think about your comment...
4

alex paterson,

edinburgh 11/09/2008 12:24:33
Why is it always 10,000 houses needed,when all you here about are new houses being built.
5

Alasdair MacWhirter,

Taking lunch 11/09/2008 12:33:23
No 1, I find your comment is somewhat ill advised - the only time the word 'police' appears in the entire article is in your reference. Yes there is a picture of two officers but the article makes no mention whatsoever of policing costs.
The likes of parking is welcomed by the council, given it generates millions in income that would otherwise go to Westminster. Do you honestly believe that the council would accept responsibility for noise complaints and ASBOS if they didn't want to? - I suspect they would just turn their backs and ignore the issues, as they do in other matters.
Perhaps your vitriol should be directed towards those councillors who feel it necessary to support and subsidise things like summer and winter festivals; commercial ventures that do no more than line the pockets of the organisers and drain the public purse. Putting thousands of pounds into a Welsh company to refurbish council chairs rather than having it done in the city, replacing serviceable flags, whilst social services are cut, schools are deprived of maintenance and essential teaching materials - need I go on? And that's before trams are mentioned.
6

Bob 2,

11/09/2008 12:58:15
How much is spent policing the Festivals?, that supposedly bring in millions

The Council decided to expand Edinburgh’s Christmas and Hogmanay festival.

Simple cut it back, like everyone else, Don't Spend what you haven't got, Don't expect someone else to pickup the bill.

Edinburgh Zoo, - isn't this a charity?
7

Arrow,

edinburgh 11/09/2008 13:33:31
#6 did the Zoo not try to raise some money by flogging off some land but the council and the green fascists said no. as for not spending whay you don't have that has been the council's mantra for years irrespective of the political colour but the Tram takes the biscuit (and the cake and the cup of tea)in terms of spendiong what you don't have and expecting other to cough up. then they will need money to pay for the council and other index linked pensions.
8

Cynicaltalk,

11/09/2008 14:21:29
#1

Away and take a look at yersel!
9

Epicuras,

11/09/2008 14:25:51
will that 3 million be arriving pre-packed into brown envelopes for dawe and her cronies?
10

tomias,

Edinburgh 11/09/2008 14:35:56
Market forces in full flow being iconic but dv,not corinthian.
Wanted a picture of J Dawe
11

Angus Mcdonald,

Edinburgh 11/09/2008 15:03:23
Everyone knows that the real reason why the SNP will not put money into Edinburgh is simply because SNP are not popular in Edinburgh and it is not a vote winner. They are biased towards places like perth,dundee and moray where the bulk of their voters are. Edinburgh's grwoth is being held back by SNP and everyone knows it.
12

ejstubbs,

Edinburgh 11/09/2008 15:13:32
#2: As has been noted numerous times including in these forums, the vast majority of the tram funding comes from the Scottish Government, not the council. You may remember that it was one of the first things that the current administration tried to wriggle out of doing.
13

tam562,

penicuik 11/09/2008 15:27:42
#1 i can see your reason for having a go at the police as the picture used, is two officers but did you actually read the article, its been said already they are not mentioned, its strange how they get the blame even when they are not eaven in the story.D ont get me wrong they do get lots off press not all good but its a bit hard giving them the pelters when they are not quoted.
14

Mallory,

Edinburgh 11/09/2008 15:40:29
All the trams funding comes from BRITISH TAXPAYERS - the Scottish Executive / Government only spends money given it by a (un)grateful Westminster. Contributions from local developers are all dependant on them building and selling their projects. How much cash has actually been handed over to date?
15

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 11/09/2008 16:06:42
#11 Angus Mcdonald

"Edinburgh's growth is being held back by SNP and everyone knows it."

Not quite Angus, I think it's pretty fair to say that a lot of growth/development in Edinburgh is certainly delayed (if not actually stopped) by the various vitriolic Heritage & Conservation groups who would like to dominate our Town's progress and evolution.


16

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 11/09/2008 17:07:39

How many sandwiches do these greedy mefs eat? You can buy loads and loads of sannies for 33 million quid.
17

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 11/09/2008 17:10:34

#15:

Don't be disappointed or concerned
It's nearly the weekend
Yes there's a lot of growth in Edinburgh
But it's mainly down to the pituitary gland
And baby bio likesay.
18

Buttress,

11/09/2008 17:12:50
15 - in yer dreams Peewee, in yer dreams. No, not fair to say, pretty or not.

If only such groups had such powers, what a better place the city could be.

And as for vitriol - your speciality, I think?

:-)

Have nice day Peewee.
19

Boswall,

11/09/2008 17:25:09
#12

I'm fairly sure I acknowledged that in my original post.....
20

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 11/09/2008 18:09:02
#18 Buttress

I am both surprised and delighted to see that you read and respond to articles not directly involving architecture, heritage and conservation which I have always believed to be your 'fixations'.

If groups such as yours had any powers whatsoever we would all still be living in caves (always allowing that you gave the rest of the population your no doubt grudging permission).

21

Boy Wonder,

11/09/2008 19:40:46
£33 million is a paltry amount to run ANY Capital city.

Unfortunately, we have a Council without a scoobie of how to do it at all!
22

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

11/09/2008 20:36:25
has Jenny Dawe put a gag on the city's Economic leader, Councillor Tom Buchanan ?
Just where is he hiding ?
23

Buttress,

11/09/2008 20:59:13
Sorry Peewee - but what groups such as mine?

You don't have any idea about me at all. But I note your fixation raises its head whatever the issue.

24

Buttress,

11/09/2008 21:11:11
22 Tom Buchanan was fairly vocal this week - in support of that ghastly hotel plan, remember? The 'string of pearls' joke.

Maybe he's off quaffing champagne with the would-be developers. He made it all sound as though planning permission (demolition of a listed building, encasing part of a historic building with glass) was merely a formality. Well, nothing should stand in the way of developer profit, and no doubt a large contribution to the trams will be had from it. So anything goes. Including heritage.

25

Buttress,

11/09/2008 21:17:27
So how does Mr Roden know this has raised eyebrows? Who told him?

"...as are the costs of looking after a world heritage site"

Well, central government cash should certainly be guaranteed for this - Edinburgh World Heritage Trust should not be threatened with massive funding cuts, as it has been.



 

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