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Between the lines: Why Alex Salmond should be thinking a lot smaller



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Published Date: 01 August 2008
SCOTLAND'S economy is not quite the Albanian-style basket case it has sometimes been portrayed as. Thanks to some recent statistical revisions, it can be argued to be in rather better shape than the British economy.
But with this discovery comes a message: if the SNP is really serious about improving Scotland's economic growth rate, rather more radical action is needed than it has so far been prepared to contemplate.

The different big picture of the Scottish
economy comes from the revisions that have been made by government statisticians to the figures on public spending and tax revenues in Scotland – figures known as GERS.

Readers will recall that the number-crunchers crawled through all the Treasury databases used to compile GERS. They then came to the rather startling conclusion that they had been over-stating spending and under-estimating revenues to such an extent that the balance – the gap between spending and revenues – was about £2 billion bigger than it ought to have been, an astounding 20 per cent error.

Ah well, at least we have some reasonably accurate figures now. We now know that in 2006-7, total public spending in Scotland was just short of £50bn. This figure is often expressed as a percentage of the total wealth produced – gross domestic product – and is used as a guide to economic health. The bigger the percentage, the more the economy is dominated by the state and is likely to be stodgy; the smaller the percentage, the more enterprising and dynamic it is likely to be.

Under the old GERS figures, the percentage had crept above 50 per cent according to the last official estimation. And on some other estimates, it was well above 50 per cent, leading some commentators to aver Scotland was more like Communist-era Albania than enterprising and dynamic Ireland.

The new GERS figures deny that. Not only is public spending less than had been supposed, but the latest statistics have also usefully provided some reasonably accurate GDP figures. And as a percentage of non-oil GDP, public spending in Scotland now turns out to be less than 50 per cent. In 2002-3, it was 45.8 per cent, rising to 47.4 per cent in 2006-7.

We can go further than that. The new GERS figures also provide an estimate of what GDP would be in an independent Scotland, which, of course, would have a substantial proportion of North Sea oil wealth. This is currently excluded from statistics of the Scottish economy. But if we use the division of the North Sea suggested by academic research, Scottish GDP obviously rises. In 2006-7, for example, it would go up from £105.3bn to £127.3bn. Consequently, public spending as a proportion of GDP falls to less than 40 per cent. In 2002-3 it was 38.6 per cent and since than it has risen only marginally to 39.2 per cent.

When we compare this to Britain as a whole (see below), we discover that spending as a proportion of non-oil GDP is higher than in Britain (which is still a bad thing), but when you include a due share of offshore oil and gas activity, it is lower. Total British government spending as a proportion of GDP has been greater than 40 per cent since 2003-4. On that basis, it is reasonable to argue that Scotland is a little bit more dynamic than Britain.

That's good news for anybody interested in the Scottish economy, but why do I reckon that the SNP has to be more radical?

The reason is: faster growth is associated with small government and by international standards and even with oil GDP, Scotland's government is still too big to generate the kind of growth to which the SNP aspires.

For example, a recent study by the International Monetary Fund (IMF) analysed the link between the size of a country and its government, debt, and economic performance.* Although small countries were defined as those with populations smaller than two million of a population, and Scotland's population is bigger than that, there is no reason to suppose that the general lesson does not apply to the Scottish case. The IMF study found that small countries with small governments (i.e. low public spending as a percentage of GDP) had faster growth and were less vulnerable to external and economically damaging shocks.

The case of Ireland, to whose economic performance the SNP aspires, proves the point. One of the reasons for Ireland's success that is not often mentioned by the SNP is that one of the corollaries of having a relatively low tax economy is that the government has less to spend. Ireland's public spending is only about 34 per cent of GDP. To reach that level, an independent Scotland's public spending would have to be cut by about £6bn.

It could be done, but the SNP shows no sign of wanting to move in that direction. If anything, it seems to want to increase public spending. It wins votes but it's not a formula for long-term economic success.

*Big Government, High Debt, and Fiscal Performance in Small States. By Stephanie Medina Cas and Rui Ota. February 2008.

Debate and discussion welcome at: pjones@ednet.co.uk.





The full article contains 892 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 01 August 2008 12:17 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Darien,

Panama 01/08/2008 00:29:26
High public spending is the Labour/LibDem legacy in Scotland. Export growth is what we need to focus on. And for that we need more transparent data on current position, as well as renewed emphasis on manufacturing and trade development, and improved transport and connectivity.
2

Glasgow Expat,

Desert 01/08/2008 03:40:27
Yes, and we also need our Scottish Pound back. Swapping one monetary union with London for another with Brussels is not really economic/political independence is it Alex?! Come on..show us you really do have a brave heart!
3

Marian,

01/08/2008 09:17:21
The Scots Government will never be able to take all the measures needed to improve Scotland's economy without its having full control of all the levers that control Scotland's economy. Unfortunately these are still held by the UK government who have historically displayed absolute hostility towards letting the Scots Government take control of their own economy for fear they make a success of it..
4

Why can't I use my usual name?,

01/08/2008 10:56:15
The article ignores Scandinavian experience. Denmark and Sweden (with no natiural advantages, e.g. oil) are among the most successful countries around - by which I mean they combine strong GDP/head with very high levels of social equity. Yet their public spending share is higher than Scotland's. The difference is probably in HOW they spend it.

Ireland does offer some lessons but not as many as suggested. It's GDP figure is misleading since it is - unusually - well above its GNP figure and social inequity is among the highest in Western Europe.

I know which model I prefer.
5

Why can't I use my usual name?,

01/08/2008 11:03:59
The countries used to draw conclusions about Scotland, a post-industrial, Northern European country are:

Antigua and Barbuda; Bahamas; Bahrain, Kingdom of; Barbados; Belize; Bhutan; Botswana; Cape Verde; Comoros; Cyprus; Djibouti; Dominica; Equatorial Guinea; Estonia; Fiji; Gabon; Gambia; Grenada; Guinea Bissau; Guyana; Jamaica; Lesotho; Maldives; Malta; na na na Mauritius; Micronesia; Namibia; Papua New Guinea; Qatar; na na Samoa; na na São Tomé & Príncipe; Seychelles; Slovenia; Solomon Island; St Kitts and Nevis; St Lucia; St Vincent & Grens; Suriname; Swaziland; Tonga; Trinidad and tobago; Vanuatu.

Does that make this article's conclusions seem more credible?
6

livilion,

livingston 01/08/2008 11:17:10
These figures are misleading. I'm disappointed AM2 hasn't jumped in to correct this error.

Scottish GDP 'at market prices' is not measured, the figure generally quoted for GDP. The UK does not break down these figures for Scotland, for reasons we can guess at.

The figures quoted here are for GVA (Gross Value Added) or GDP 'at basic prices', which is very not the same as the UK (or Irish) GDP we all know and love. No surprises there.

To convert GVA to GDP the rule of thumb is to add 20% to the GVA figure.

£127.3bn Scottish GVA would give the recognised form in GDP as £152.8bn.

Given that wee £25.5bn adjustment, so we measure ourself apples for apples with the Irish, we come out looking not that badly at all.
7

Albanecon,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 11:51:01
Livilion - the figures quoted are GDP, not GVA as Chapter 3 of GERS 2006-07 makes clear. So there is no adjustment to make. And if you were adjusting GVA to a GDP figure, the adjustment would be 14%.
8

livilion,

livingston 01/08/2008 12:16:20
7 Albanecon,
No you are mistaken.
From the Scottish parliament's own website:
"What is GDP?
Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is a measure of the value added to materials and other inputs in the production of goods and services by resident organisations; before allowing for depreciation or capital consumption. Net receipts from interest, profits and dividends abroad are excluded.

What is GVA?
There are two measures of GDP, market prices and basic prices. The estimates produced here are measured in basic prices, which excludes taxes less subsidies on products (taxes on products include VAT and excise duties). Gross Value Added (GVA) is another term for GDP at basic prices.

GDP at market prices is the headline measure used by the UK but they also produce estimates of GVA for their industry breakdown as it is difficult to break down taxes and subsidies below whole economy level.

***GDP at market prices is not produced for Scotland due to the same difficulty of allocating taxes and subsidies below national level.***

All UK figures included in this website refer to GDP at basic prices (or GVA) for comparability. UK figures are taken from the ONS' month 3 GDP publication "Quarterly National Accounts 1st Quarter 2008" published on 27 June 2008.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Statistics/Browse/Economy/gdp

Or
The link between GVA and GDP can be defined as:
GVA (at current basic prices; available by industry only)
plus taxes on products (available at whole economy level only)
less subsidies on products (available at whole economy level only)
equals GDP (at current market prices; available at whole economy level only).

GVA + taxes on products - subsidies on products = GDP

20%-14%? ok call me a liar:
£127.3bn Scottish GVA would give the recognised form in GDP as £145.1bn.

Given that wee £17.8bn adjustment, so we measure ourself apples for apples with the Irish, we come out looking not that badly at all.
9

livilion,

livingston 01/08/2008 12:43:42
7 Albanecon
Given that we are talking about the Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland for 2006-2007, since the hike in revenues from the North Sea this year I await with breath baited for the current figures for GERS.
10

Albanecon,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 13:03:27
8 Livilion.
Read GERS 2006-07, especially chapter 3, Box 3.2 where you will find the following: "It should be noted that GDP figures on a cash basis for Scotland have never been published before. In previous GERS publications, and in other analyses produced by the Scottish Government, proxy estimates for GDP were produced by applying the UK basic price adjustment ratio to the Scottish GVA estimate derived from the ONS' Regional Accounts. As part of the GERS review process, a comprehensive assessment has been made of the UK revenue streams relating to taxes less subsidies on products, and appropriate apportionments to Scotland have been applied. This analysis has been used to estimate a Scottish basic price adjustment, and to produce GDP on a cash basis for Scotland. This methodology will be discussed with users with a view to making them National Statistics in due course."
In other words, the adjustment to convert GVA to GDP has already been made. These are new figures. The material you quote is entirely correct, but they apply to old figures, not these new ones.

11

livilion,

livingston 01/08/2008 13:59:58
10 Albanecon
I Quote again from the same Government source:
Quote
".All UK figures included in this website refer to GDP AT BASIC PRICES (or GVA) for comparability

UK figures are taken from the ONS' month 3 GDP publication "Quarterly National Accounts 1st Quarter 2008" published on 27 June 2008."
Endquote.

Ok so they're a month out of date, but GDP at market prices is not produced for Scotland due to the apparent difficulty of allocating taxes and subsidies below national level.

GVA at current basic prices is available by industry only
Taxes on products available at UK level only
Subsidies on products available at UK level only

GDP at current market prices again available at UK economy level only.

Perhaps you can provide a link to the Scottish Government's sources and methodology as these are not given by the Office of National Statistics?

To quote your quote:
"This analysis has been used to estimate a Scottish basic price adjustment, and to produce GDP on a cash basis for Scotland"

ie All UK figures included in this website refer to GDP AT BASIC PRICES (or GVA) for comparability...

Penny dropped yet?
12

Albanecon,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 15:21:34
11
Lets try again. You are quoting things which say that the only GDP figures available for Scotland are GVA at basic price figures. This is generally true, but is not true in one special case, the GERS 2006-07 document. To see why, let's try it with actuall numbers. Let's take GVA, or GDP at basic prices, which National Statistics inconveniently produce for calendar years, not financial years. The GVA figure for Scotland in the most recent years were 2005: £86,321m and 2006 £91,024m. We can convert that to a financial year by taking three quarters of the 2005 figure (nine months April-Dec) and a quarter of 2006 figure (three months Jan-March)and that gives us a GVA figure for 2005-06 of £89,848m Let's compare that to the 2005-06 GDP figure given in GERS 2006-07 and big shock its different. It is £99,224m, which is 10.4% bigger. This may be explained by the methodology the Scottish Government statisticians have used to produce these figures, explained in GERS 2006-07. Nonetheless, it is the first GDP at market prices figure which has ever been produced. Here's the link: http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2008/06/18170334/0
Do read it thoroughly especially chapter 3.
The calculation you want to do is quite valid, but only for GVA figures. What you were doing to the GVA figures in the article is double counting. If you insist on carry on doing it, I vcan't be bothered respionding to someone who lives in threir own dream bubble.
13

M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State........ Coatbridge 01/08/2008 16:05:33

I think the term thinking smaller is not quite right...gives the wrong impression.

We need to think more about self sufficiency and not rely on the global market to the same extent.

One of my reasons for voting SNP is that I am anti globalisation to the extent the UK economy is now....Way too much centralisation in my opinion
14

Chris Cook,

Linlithgow 01/08/2008 16:30:40
I think that the position that the "Western Model is wonderful" and that what is needed is more "reform" is getting a bit tired, post "Credit Crunch".

The Scandinavian economies are not noted for small government, and are doing just fine, thank you. The SNP are absolutely correct to look to eg Norway for policy initiatives.

The ideological rhetoric so prevalent in the "Scotsman" is now long past its "sell by date".

eg a nurse is not "productive" when he/she works for the State and is a "drain on taxpayers", but the minute he/she works in the Private sector then he/she is "creating wealth". Orwell would have been proud of such "NewSpeak".

The "Scotsman" should have a look at new solutions which have a chance of working in the real world, rather than the "Socialist" and "NeoCon" solutions which have both been tried and found wanting.







15

camster,

E Kilbride 01/08/2008 17:49:12
There is a serious concern over the future of small export dependent economies. Stable production can often be switched very quickly to a point close to consumption or the lowest cost place of manufacture leaving only innovative new production. This area is inherently risky and for a small economy can mean a rollercoaster ride.

The contract manufacturing plant I work in has 50% of its demand from Scotland, 48% from the rest of the UK and just 2% from the rest of the World. Much of our recent growth has come from onshoring in which our UK customers transfer production from places such as Hungary or Ireland back to the UK to save on logistics, eliminate currency fluctuations and speed up response. If our plant was in Ireland today we would not survive.








16

foxbat3000,

hanging by my fingertips from Salisbury Crags 02/08/2008 15:24:48
I could be a complete economic numpty but when I looked through the spending figures they seemed to be saying Scotland was spending 5.5% of GDP on defence. No one on the planet spends 5.5% of GDP on defence not even the US its insane. Can someone check this and tell me if I'm correct or not please.

Table 6.1: Total Expenditure: Scotland 2006-07


Scotland

£ million


% of total expenditure

General public services

Public and common services


1,417


2.8%

International services


518


1.0%

Public sector debt interest


2,415


4.8%

Defence


2,729


5.5%

Public order and safety


2,292


4.6%

 

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