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Published Date:
19 September 2007
A NEW campaign is being mounted to press Caledonian MacBrayne, the ferry operator, to introduce a seven-day service to Lewis, The Scotsman has learned.
The strictly Sabbatarian island has so far resisted Sunday ferries, although a seven-day service to the neighbouring island of Harris began last year.

However, in the past week CalMac, the state-owned company which runs the crossing from Ullapool
to Stornoway, has received nearly 40 letters and e-mails calling for the six-day service to be extended as soon as possible.

It is thought that an announcement on the future of CalMac routes, due to be made this week, has prompted the new calls.

Supporters say that a seven-day service would bring social and economic benefits to the island and that Sunday travel should be a matter of individual choice. They argue that, as CalMac provides similar services elsewhere in the Western Isles, seven-day crossings for Lewis are overdue.

The ferry company has repeatedly insisted it has no plans to introduce Sunday sailings to Lewis, but said it would consider any requests to do so.

The messages began arriving on 11 September, and by yesterday CalMac had received 37 in total, mostly from Lewis but also outwith the island.

A spokesman for CalMac said: "It may be that the impending signing of our contract to offer the services from 1 October is seen as an important point in the equation.

"The issue has been raised at a sub-committee of the board, and I anticipate a formal response being made to the correspondents once the contract is signed, hopefully towards the end of this week."

He added that the issue would then be raised with the CalMac board which meets next week: "It is for the board to take a view at that point as to how to progress the matter."

The Rev Andrew Coghill, the vice-chairman of the Lewis branch of the Lord's Day Observance Society, said: "We will oppose [a seven-day service], but the evidence from the past would indicate that CalMac is not sympathetic to the Christian point of view.

"The community is not seeking this, it is being artificially whipped up. But there are those on the island desperate to break down the last vestiges of Christian cultural heritage we have here."

In March, a report urged Comhairle nan Eilean Siar (Western Isles Council) to give serious consideration to a seven-day ferry service in summer between Stornoway and Ullapool.

Fisher Associates, independent consultants, found strong cultural reasons why there was no seven-day service, but said it was clear many residents support it and would benefit from it.

A council spokesman said yesterday: "We are opposed to the introduction of Sunday sailings to Lewis."



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  • Last Updated: 18 September 2007 8:49 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Caledonian MacBrayne
 
1

scottishsponger,

19/09/2007 00:11:33

Whether you travel on a Sunday should be a matter of choice, NOT dictated to you by the religious extremists. These dwellers of the dark ages should not be allowed to force their superstitions on others. What harm does it do to them if others travel or watch TV on a Sunday, they'd be none the wiser anyway because they'd be in church or have their head buried in a bible. Its not like anyone's forcing them to join in with the modern age.

2

Conan the Librarian,

Not Balmoral 19/09/2007 01:36:29

Agree.
They don't have to work ,but they shoudn't stop others from doing what they want to do.
Wee Free=Taleban.
Only kidding.
The Taleban are quite liberal in some ways.
But the WeeFree don't have AK 47s

3

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 19/09/2007 02:31:24

Are people not allowed a day off work? The King James Bible states that no less a person than God insisted on it. When I was a building contrator in Stornoway I had no problem that that no ferry sailed on Sunday. I adjusted my shedules and work times for the tradesmen, some of whom came from Banff.

Ferries are complicated ships and one quiet day per week is something every engineer wants for essential maintenance.

4

scottishsponger,

19/09/2007 02:43:20

How do you know what "every engineer" wants Yok Finney? What is the King James bible anyway and what reference does it have to this debate? I assume you're talking about a book written about 2000 years ago. I'd like to know what relevance that would have to any debate in today's society. "No less a person than God" eh? Excuse my ignorance but I don't think god is actually a person.

5

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 19/09/2007 02:51:23

God is not human. He created man in the image he had on his computer like you'd expect.

My credos is marine engineering, ship-building and modern structural composites. Got a problem there?

The warring mono-theisism of of land folk seems trivial to the sailor. I respect athiests. Which is nothing to do with consumerism which alot of people think it is.

6

Guga II,

Rockall 19/09/2007 04:59:10

The lack of Sunday sailings, along with what are amongst the highest ferry fares in the world, have held back the development of the islands for years.

Tourists don't want to come here because of the ferry fares, and people working away on the mainland can't get home for the weekend because of the lack of Sunday sailings.

We now, finally, have Sunday flights, but the standard fare from BA (Loganair) is £174 single from Stornoway to Glasgow (dearer than flights from Glasgow to New York, or even Los Angeles).

Any development on the islands has always been put off by the lack of facilities on a Sunday, though things are slowly changing (we now have a couple of pubs and a filling station open on a Sunday).

#2 Conan the Librarian. "But the WeeFree don't have AK 47s". Just as well, as some of them are worse than the Taliban in their mediaeval attitudes. The "ceders", i.e. the Free Presbyterian Church, are even worse than the Wee Frees.

We need Sunday sailings, and we need Road Equivalent Tariffs (RET) on the ferries which are, coincidentally, owned by the Scottish government. The SNP have told us they will give us RET, but we shall see what happens.

7

Boy Wonder,

19/09/2007 05:49:54

These are the kind of christians that give their religion the bad name it so richly deserves. Religious zealots should not be allowed to dictate policies to non-believers who want to live without their religion. But that's what's happening and the government is allowing it by pandering to them.

There is also the issue of expensive travel to just about anywhere in this country. Why are our planes, buses and trains more expensive than just about anywhere else??

8

druidh,

19/09/2007 06:20:34

#3 - you seem to be a bit confused. On the one hand, you think that everyone should down tools on a Sunday, but on the other hand, you argue that Sunday should be used for maintenance. Who exactly is gonna carry out this maintenance if everyone I'd in church?

9

SouthernSkye,

19/09/2007 06:21:42

Not for me to comment. We have the bridge which, for a couple o years now, has been free. As ballots are bandied about so much these days would not a simple "every person of voting age" gets a simple Yes or No postal ballot paper and then take the results of the majority to be what the people want?

10

why can't I use my own name???,

19/09/2007 06:22:20

Post #6

'......Just as well, as some of them are worse than the Taliban in their mediaeval attitudes. The "ceders", i.e. the Free Presbyterian Church, are even worse than the Wee Frees.'

One of them - a Very Reverend, at that - once told me and my wife, in front of relations up there, that we'd be going to Hell because we got married in church yet never attended thereafter!!

I know it's their way, but religion is tangibly overbearing on Lewis.

11

donald,

weegieland 19/09/2007 06:32:18

King Shamus was a (London) tube.

12

AbandonAllHope,

19/09/2007 06:52:57

"The strictly Sabbatarian island has so far resisted Sunday ferries, although a seven-day service to the neighbouring island of Harris began last year."

Relationships had hit such an all time low the UN was forced to separate them physically

13

Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 19/09/2007 06:54:43

The Calmac staff are shifted 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off, through the entire fleet in Scotland. The Lewis run is the only run in Scotland that does not provide a 7 day service. That means they get 2 days off per 2 shifted weeks plus thier 2 weeks off in every month.

This comes out of our pockets by way of massive subsidies. If you look at the other outer isles such as the orkneys and Shetlands who operate 7 day service (and in some cases more than one ferry operator)m thier economy is booming.

Lewis is on it's knees but the councillors answer to that is? Keep the religious dogma but fill the landscape with turbines, pocket the subsidy, produce no real economy but at least the church is ok.

As it happens, one can still get off Lewis on a Sunday (or on and I'm not tlaking about the planes) by taking the Harris to Berneray (uist) ferry (Harris is physically attached to Lewis BTW) then jumping on the Lochmaddy or South Uist ferry to Oban. Might take all day, but it's possible.

Funny how they started the Harris Sunday service, the church goers still go, the churches still stand but the economy is still on it's knees.

14

Guga II,

Rockall 19/09/2007 07:06:44

#13 Dave. And the sky hasn't fallen.

15

fred bloggs,

19/09/2007 07:13:51

13. Will they switch off the turbines on Sundays?

16

Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 19/09/2007 07:18:22

14 Guga

Yup, nothing actually changed, in any respect.

15 No, they will stick them up your a*se.

17

Roy,

19/09/2007 07:47:46

The Lord's Day Observance Society KNOW that folk want this service. Otherwise they would be saying to CalMac: 'Go ahead. But you won't get passengers and you'll have trouble crewing the vessel.' When Sunday flights were launched, the best protest they could muster at Stornoway Airport was around 60 souls.

18

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 19/09/2007 08:12:24

-- How do you know what "every engineer" wants Yok Finney?

I am one.

16 knots into a head sea means alot of pitching. A big sea means reducing to 10k or slower. And I have to maintain 2 radars, sonar, GPS ...

meanwhile a yachtsman is on a collision course. We've tried to radio him to no effect so it means 30 degrees to starboard. In a big sea this could cause artic trailers to capsise onto the cars maybe your one, while bowls of soup slide off tables.

For a difficult job I would prefer the ferry to be berthed in Stornoway harbour. Once a month is the time we need. I don't care what day of the week it is.

19

Kobi,

19/09/2007 08:21:46

You are the kind of aetheists that give your religion the bad name it so richly deserves. Aetheist zealots should not be allowed to dictate policies to non-believers who want to live without their aetheism. But that's what's happening and the government is allowing it by pandering to them.

There is also the issue of expensive travel to just about anywhere in this country. Why are our planes, buses and trains more expensive than just about anywhere else??

20

Mercutio,

Falkirk 19/09/2007 08:32:12

#13 Dave thanks for the geography lesson regarding Lewis/Harris. I thought the Lochmaddy ferry went to Uig and the Lochboisdale ferry (South Uist) to Oban via Castlebay.
The fares are always going to have to be subsidised regardless off weasly politico speak like RET, which means the Clerical establishment on Lewis will always have influence with the politicians. How does Guga get away from Rockall?

21

Horrible Cankers esq,

The Cyber Shebeen 19/09/2007 09:37:36

19...Atheism has no 'bad name'...where did you get that from pal?...maybe from the fiery threats that bellow from your local pulpit...but thats about it...its all about control control control with the religious zealots...amazing..the effect that this fear produces in people...So, we should just ignore this issue and let them all get on with it..as it is a local problem eh?..wrong....it is a British Island and there are more people who have a right to get on and off of it...the locals do not own it (as far as I am aware) and should not dictate what happens re access...

No wonder the younger generations are deserting these islands....

22

Kobi,

19/09/2007 10:45:54

#21

Aetheism is as much a fundamentalist dogmatic religion based purely on faith as any other religion.

23

Horrible Cankers esq,

The Cyber Shebeen 19/09/2007 11:25:01

Yes some may care to intepret it that way...dont see many atheist churches though....or mind control/culture blighting with threats re ghosts, spooks, big bad fires and a toasting stick...not to mention bribing a la ..."If you are a good girl in this life, you'l get your reward in the next"....

Organised religion is much like the mafia...atheism is hardly in the same league pal....and just because some of the worlds ugliest despots were atheist, it dont mean that the victims of these governments and regimes would have been any better off under religious rule....at least the atheist bampots were not carrying out their atrocities with the assumed permission from some supernatural being....but under their own steam..humans eh?...so gullible..so desperate..and so brainwashed...

24

Calum Crubag,

19/09/2007 11:53:21

#22 - explain yourself.

Where do those who wish to ban Sunday ferries on relgious grounds wish to stop? Do they want their biblical ideas rolled out onto all aspects of our lives?

Will the Wee Free taleban demand that boys are cicrumcised? Decree that menstruation is 'unclean' and that women during their periods are forbidden to talk to or touch men?

Will they demand death by stoning for adulterers?

If not, why not? Why do Christians insist on cherry-picking from the Bible?

Why not just leave all religion to the dark ages?

25

Calum Crubag,

19/09/2007 11:54:22

We all need days off. Just doesn't need to be a Sunday.

26

Kobi,

19/09/2007 12:34:07

#23

Spoken like a true believer.

27

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 19/09/2007 15:08:19

-- I thought the the Lochboisdale ferry went to ...

Brazil or wherever. It's tighter than Wendy Alexander's getting into that eastern sea loch far less out. The time we heard that the ferry was on the rocks (we were the arse side of Canna) we steamed 12 knots to the rescue. The Navy got their first, but we got a good shot of dogs up Dunvegan way for our humanitarian efforts.

28

Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 19/09/2007 15:46:50

Don't recall the Lochboisdale ferry being on the rocks. Got a wee link for that Yok?

Mercutio

Aye it goes to Uig, but Uig in Skye isn't held over by the Wee Free, neither is any of the Uists. I've always found it strange the extreme local differences from a council that extands down the entire chain of islands.

29

Conan,

Craighouse 19/09/2007 16:09:39

#22, of course, you are entirely correct - anti-theism, such as atheism, is as much a religion as theism .... and .... judging from the intensity of the posts in these pages the anti-theist's message comes little short of a declaration of 'jihad' against all forms of theistic religion. What are they afraid of? Perhaps uncertain in their anti-theism? Perhaps they worry that their 'no-God' does not exist? They do seem to be an easily intimidated bunch.

30

WL,

livingston 19/09/2007 16:11:33

If the majority of Lewis people do not want the ferry service on a Sunday, then don't pester them with it and leave them in peace on Sundays.

31

Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 19/09/2007 16:18:03

WL

How do you know that? From my experience, a tiny vocal minority don't want Sunday ferries, a middle majority want the choice and another silent minority do want it.

32

Kobi,

19/09/2007 18:07:53

#29

They are consumed by self-loathing because they believe with all their being that there is no such thing as a religious deity, they beleive in man as a rational being, and they believe in the fundamental principles of science above irrational beliefs. But then, according to the best principles of the science they worship, they cannot prove that there is no God. Drives them nuts it does.

33

Horrible Cankers esq,

The Cyber Shebeen 19/09/2007 18:57:00

Whereas adults who believe in fairy tales really are nuts.

There is no Santa Claus.

34

WL,

livingston 19/09/2007 20:11:13

#31 Dave
What does the middle majority want - a ferry one Sunday, but not the next one? They'll have to make up their mind.

35

Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 19/09/2007 20:14:26

WL

What? A 7 day service as per the Charter that Calmac adheres to everywhere in Scotland paid for by our taxes.

Dunno where you get that from. Very strange comment.

Is it that you think the middle majority all make the same collective decision as to when they want to leave or enter the island? Very strange.

36

Boy Wonder,

19/09/2007 21:21:19

#19. Kobi ... you're an a*se!! No two ways about it! A pure a*se!!!

37

Kobi,

19/09/2007 21:33:53

#36

Ah, abuse. The last resort of a man without a decent argument to put.

38

Conan the Librarian,

19/09/2007 22:10:12

#29
Conan,you are quite correct.I am an evangelistic atheist.
Disputing is one of life's great pleasures.
I love talking to Mormons and JWs on the doorstep.
Offer them tea ,coffee,beer.
Then say I worship the only True God,the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Have you ever had a Mormon want to hit you?

39

Conan the Librarian,

19/09/2007 22:12:35

#29
PS is your wee Jack a Parson or a stumpy?

40

Native Islander,

Stornoway 19/09/2007 22:20:12

Sunday ferry please! Cal Mac announced over ten years ago that they planned to introduce a Sunday crossing either from Lewis or Harris, this got dropped from the agenda due to extensive lobbying from the very vocal minority that leave the rest of the world thinking we are are strict and solemn sabbatarians. As an aside are you aware that the free church continuing were perfectly happy for a council employee, the town hall janny, to be working on a sunday because that's where they held their services!

41

Conan,

Here 19/09/2007 23:40:09

#38 - no Latter Day Saints' attacks. Too bad they have come up with such a nonsense for a theology - fine folks otherwise..

Still, better than that cult of atheism whose biggest supporters have been the likes of Mao, Stalin, Castro, Hitler, etc. Good company, eh?

42

Chris M,

20/09/2007 09:31:00

A Sunday sailing would be great to see, not everyone who lives in the Lewis goes to church on a Sunday. It would be great to have the flexibility to travel to and from the mainland on a Sunday via the ferry rather than by plane (I can't get all my shopping home , nor can I fill my car's fuel tank by plane - currently pay 104p - 107p per litre for diesel and petrol) Just one return ferry on a Sunday would make the world of difference!

Perhaps all those that would like to see this come to fruition should add their voice to the campaign and contact Cal Mac.

customercare@calmac.co.uk

or write to them at their Head Office in Gourock:

Customer Care
CalMac Ferries Ltd
Ferry Terminal
Gourock
PA19 1QP


 

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