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Published Date: 26 January 2009
CONSUMERS are missing out on government measures designed to boost customer spending as major high-street brands fail to pass on the VAT rate cuts in their stores.
Chains including McDonald's, Edinburgh Woollen Mill, Poundland and music seller HMV are among those refusing to allow their customers to benefit from the government's 2.5 per cent cut in VAT to 15 per cent.

The news comes after a Scotsman investigation last week revealed that staff at garden centre chain Dobbies were told they should try to "pacify" shoppers asking about the reduction, and offer it to them only if that fails.

Retail leaders said that while companies could not be forced to pass on the cut, they would encourage them to do so for the benefit of both the consumer and the individual business.

A spokesman for HM Revenue & Customs said: "Government is calling on all businesses to pass on the tax reduction to consumers through lower prices, but ultimately decisions on prices are for businesses rather than government."

Fast-food chain McDonald's told The Scotsman that it had discounted only its extra value meals, while HMV said it was reducing its prices through special offers and savings, but was not offering a 2.5 per cent discount across the board.

Teresa Farren, senior customer services adviser for McDonald's, said: "Instead of taking 1p or 2p off individual items, we have taken 5p or 10p off our extra value range.

"They are our most popular items, so we wanted to give customers better value on those products." She added that the company had not had many complaints from customers.

A spokesman for HMV said: "HMV has followed the approach adopted by other retailers of converting the minor VAT reduction into major savings for our customers.

"Independent of the many hundreds of products that are on promotion at HMV each and every month, we have been passing on the VAT saving by focusing price reductions and value offers on a number of lines."

The chain said it was directly passing on the 2.5 per cent cut on its games consoles and iPods.

Discount chain Poundland claimed it cannot change the price of its products due to the nature of its business – which prices all products at a flat rate of £1. But it added that it welcomed the VAT cut, saying it had increased its promotions such as "two for one" offers.

Edinburgh Woollen Mill failed to provide an official explanation for its failure to pass on the cut, but one member of staff said they had been told by management that the company "tried to keep its prices down" but "couldn't afford to do that with the VAT".

Fiona Moriarty, director of the Scottish Retail Consortium, said most of the organisation's members had passed on the cut.

She said: "They saw that it was the right thing to do and realised it was important not only for the customer, but for the business."


FACT BOX

ALISTAIR Darling, the Chancellor, cut the standard rate of VAT from 17.5 per cent to 15 per cent until the end of this year to help increase customer spending. While some saw the reduction as a welcome boost for the flagging retail sector, critics claimed the cut was too little, too late.

Although the government is encouraging companies to pass the rate cut on to consumers, it is not compulsory to do so.

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  • Last Updated: 25 January 2009 9:50 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Consumer spending
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/01/2009 00:29:31

One would of assumed, that all goods that had a 17.5%vat levy on them, would be automatically reduced to the governments new rate of 15%.
Looks like loop-holes, have been found for the greedy few!

But the Public are wise!, this is the "RECESSION", if these greedy stores and food outlets dont wise-up, we will boycott them, only being to their demise!

Let Charles Linskaill tell you here and now! You will end-up, like ZAVVI and the likes!

ARE YOU THAT ARROGANT, NEVER TO LEARN?

2

yockel,

26/01/2009 06:44:07
The Hootsmon wants folk to eat more burgers?

Why is HMRC spending public money to do something that is outwith their remit, spending more of our money to try and make it look as though Gordo is a good guy?
3

McTee,

26/01/2009 07:58:48
What do you expect Poundland to do? It would cost millions to rename all of their stores as 97.87penceland.
4

Mallory,

Edinburgh 26/01/2009 08:02:42
Jings I may have been overcharged by 2p. Where's a lawyer when you want one?
5

Phil C,

26/01/2009 08:09:08
The VAT cut was a childish and ineffective measure introduced to boost the government's image with it's supporters. It's a free market and companies can set whatever prices they like. There should be no interference from the Westminster eejits and their media.
6

yockel,

26/01/2009 08:25:20
Doh, just realised. They are saving the economy by boosting the pound on the Big Mac Index. Cunning plan guys, way to go, woop dee do.
7

Me, myself and I,

Livingston 26/01/2009 08:58:40
# 1

You really should get out more ...
8

Tukhachevsky,

26/01/2009 09:02:39
You get the feeling though that these stores would be more than happy to increase their prices by 2.5% if the Govt decided to increase Vat to its previous level of 17.5%

No1 is pretty much spot on.
9

The Ayrshire Bard,

26/01/2009 09:08:29
The few times I've ever had a Big Mac I've paid my vat in the shape of a very angry tum.
10

drunken proffet,

Tassy 26/01/2009 09:33:18
I have never known a reduction in vat to produce a better flavour or a superior item. It is a tax on the items you enjoy consuming. I would assume that it represents a large portion of the profit of selling a big Mac. If the government had reduced the vat by seven and a half percent, I doubt if you would notice. However if MacDonalds had increased their burgers by seven and a half percent now that is something entirely different. So there you have it, the next election, vote for MacDonalds.
11

Da Doo,

Edinburgh 26/01/2009 09:45:26
Phil C,26/01/2009 08:09:08
It's a free market and companies can set whatever prices they like..................................yes, but we will remember!!
12

E300,

26/01/2009 09:53:16
1 Charles Linskail
Yep Charles, boycott Poundland and buy your toothpaste in the Coop for £2.14 instead of £1.
13

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 26/01/2009 09:54:34
#10 It's McDonalds.

And their value menu rocks
14

Scotfree,

Erskine 26/01/2009 09:58:50
This is a confused and misleading article. It is not up up to the companies whether they pass on VAT or not it is the law that they must do so. If the companies involved put the price without VAT (as they can be asked to do) then it would be obvious that they have increased their prices (as the headline should have read).
15

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 26/01/2009 10:03:36
What a waste of paper. 2.5% off a 99p burger is less than 2.5p

16

drew 33,

duddingston 26/01/2009 10:08:46
# 1
As #7 says "You really should get out more .." go to the Sheep Heid for your Sunday roast now with 15% vat costing £8-95 previous price with 17.5% vat £7-50. It might have escaped your notice but the government is busy reducing our standard of living by engineering the biggest falling in Sterling's history. 2.5% on vat is just irrelevant except in that it increases retailer's costs.
17

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/01/2009 10:37:32


Why is the Scotsman News not 2.5% cheaper?

18

drew 33,

duddingston 26/01/2009 10:44:46
#17 1
How would you know Charles, do you ever buy it?
19

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/01/2009 10:58:34

Drew ~18,

Yes I do buy the Scotsman £1.50 For yesterdays edition, but Hey!, my blog was published in it! (again) :)

20

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/01/2009 11:11:33

M&S and Tesco give you the 2.5% reduction at the tills, what I say it may be a pittance but they all add up, and better in our pocket, than anyone elses.

21

broadgait,

gullane 26/01/2009 11:27:18
It would have been a lot more sensible to keep 17.5% and start building the new Forth crossing with the money.
22

Langenburger,

26/01/2009 12:00:13
VAT is actually an unfair tax when it comes to take away food
Big companies like McDonalds have to add it on to their raw costs which are VAT free
Small companies either trade below the VAT level and don't pay or just cheat the VAT man
We need our food service sector and allits full time and part time jobs to survive this downturn and the smarter move would have been to remove VAT on all takeaway foods.
23

Andrew Horton,

26/01/2009 12:09:21
I think most people would do the same, and given that prices have remained the similar £x.99 and so on I think most people *have* done the same. Rather than spend the extra money to introduce a temporary VAT cut which will do nothing to increase spending, then spend the extra money after a year to increase it again (to 20%?), in the meantime reducing operating monies while the banks aren't lending, they're right to ignore this loony cut.

Better that Labour had spent the £12b lost through the VAT cut to remove stamp duty for two years to soften the fall in the housing market and to help the construction industry, or to have changed the stamp duty bands for an even longer period. But Labour were, as always, after headlines and not sound policy.
24

Tris,

26/01/2009 13:26:12
Yet another reason why the VAT reduction was a waste of time and money.
25

Tris,

26/01/2009 13:28:18
#13... incidentally, if they have a "value" menu, what is the rest of the stuff they sell.... a rip off?
26

Archie, Gourock,

26/01/2009 15:19:55
#17 Charles Linskall

The Scotsman isn't 2.5 pc cheaper because there is no VAT on newspapers.

Also, you seriously need to get a life, man.

Brown is a total idiot. As John Major said recently *re VAT cut*, he'd be better of burning the money.

This could only ever work if we had the same billing regime as North America.. Quoted Price PLUS Sales Tax.

What everyone seems to have missed is that by withholding the 2.5%, they've effectively raised inflation by the same amount.
27

puskas,

East kilbride 26/01/2009 15:22:29
When McDonalds burgers are as big and good eating as in the states I may think about buying one...

Indeed in NZ kids and adults can drink as much soft drink as they wish after the initial purchase.
28

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/01/2009 15:25:17


Even the mobile phone providers are giving you the VAT back on PAYT, for instant, top-up with £5.00 with Vodafone and they will credit you with £5.13,
It is only sheer greed that others as in this article, do not do the same,....

.....'SHAME ON THEM'!

29

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 26/01/2009 16:42:26
I didn't think you had to pay VAT on food.

Mind you, your average fast-food burger could hardly be described as food.
30

Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging Around 26/01/2009 16:57:18
Well, it is good to know that when the temporary VAT cut is removed, none of these companies will be increasing their prices.

Ow - almost got hit by a low-flying pig there!
31

JT,

26/01/2009 18:55:43
C'mon its not as if the vat reduction has actually made a difference has it? We just spent £33 in Tesco and got 9p back! Oh whoopy doo!
32

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 26/01/2009 20:41:21
Big fat and chips - hold the VAT.

This is credit by government decree. Eat now, pay later.
33

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/01/2009 21:10:16

JT ~31,

Ah but over a year, it all adds up!, and would you rather give it to "Broon"?
VAT is only on certain food products, VAT, was meant to be a Luxury Tax, but how can one justify VAT on Women's, sanitary products? 'What a Swizz'!

VAT, is not applicable to Children's clothing, so if your wife, can fit say a size 5-5.5 shoes or trainers, check-out the Children's dept! (save fortunes) :)



34

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/01/2009 21:14:59

The VAT Man has special Powers also, as like the "Customs and Excise", they can search your house, if you are VAT Registered, and suspect you of,...

...."Dodgy Going-ons"!!


35

danbob,

26/01/2009 21:18:15
What's wrong with some of you lot. Your letting the side down You should remember the old scottish saying, "Look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves"

36

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/01/2009 21:20:01


The "VAT Man" can search your wife's wardrobe, and make you accountable for all that is in it, if he suspects you of,...."Dodgy Going-ons"!!", this is even if, you registered Business address is elsewhere, and you are VAT Registered.
37

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/01/2009 21:21:48

danbob ~35,

TO DAMMED TRUE!!

Wait till they are 'SKINT', Then it will be a different Story!

38

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 27/01/2009 03:14:49
Give the 2.5% to the poor folk of Gaza and Hamas will be rubbing their hands with glee, more than they already are over the furore they have caused.A Big Mac fer me, a Big Mac fer me, if yer no a Big Mac, yer nae used t' me!....and they are no cheaper in China!Strange that!

 

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