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Refinery strike: Management and union ponder peace deal



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HOPES of an end to the Grangemouth oil refinery dispute rose tonight after a proposal was drawn up to break a deadlocked row over pensions.
The move followed peace talks between leaders of the Unite union and bosses from Ineos, which owns the giant refinery in Scotland.

Ineos chief Jim Ratcliffe took part in the meeting, held within hours of the end of a 48-hour strike by 1,200 worker
s, which led to the closure of Grangemouth.

A brief joint statement said: "A meeting was held in London today between Jim Ratcliffe and Tom Crotty of Ineos and the joint general secretaries of Unite, Derek Simpson and Tony Woodley.

"It was a constructive and meaningful discussion and ended in a proposal that will be considered by the company and the union in the coming days with a view to finding a resolution to the pensions dispute."

The Grangemouth complex was tonight returning to production after the strike, which was held in protest at the planned closure of Ineos's final salary pension scheme to new workers.

Business Secretary John Hutton visited Grangemouth earlier today and welcomed the new talks, adding: "There is a gap between the two sides that has got to be bridged – only the two parties themselves can reach an agreement. No one can do that for them. But I hope there is now a mood to try and reach an agreement.

"We have an opportunity now to try and resolve this dispute. Both sides should show restraint and responsibility, and create the space to allow an agreement to be reached.

"I am sure an agreement can be reached, and that is in everyone's best interests."

Mr Hutton said he had travelled to Edinburgh to voice his "appreciation and respect" for work done by the Scottish Government to minimise the impact of the dispute.

Mr Hutton met Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond, who said: "We are anxious that everything that we say contributes to the resolution of the dispute – and that nothing that we or anybody else say should be seen as aggravating things again.

"We are in a much better place than we were a few days ago, and let's hope that positive progress continues."

Mr Hutton denied the Labour Government's pensions policy had been a factor in the dispute, saying that increased longevity was putting pressure on final salary pension schemes around the world.

"I think it's quite wrong to say this dispute has its origins in changes to the tax regime that took place 10 years or so ago," he said.

Emergency fuel supplies arrived in Scotland to ease the pressure on forecourts yesterday, with more due to be shipped in from Europe today.

A fleet of between 500 and 600 tankers is also expected to move out of Grangemouth to replenish supplies at filling stations.

The shortages occurred after several days of motorists rushing to fill up their tanks.

A spokesman for BP said: "By 6am tomorrow, we expect there will have been 450 tanker movements, including 140 BP tankers to fill up BP branded forecourts.

"The remainder will be wholesaler customers picking up, either delivering to their own petrol stations or forwarding to third parties.

"If all goes well tomorrow, deliveries out to sites and pick up by wholesalers will reach between 500 and 600."



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1

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/04/2008 19:11:00
How interesting to note that the talk took place in London. Says it all really. Satellite installation.
2

MikeyG,

Newcastle 29/04/2008 19:31:33
(in Newcastle today, to buy petrol, 10p a litre cheaper than in Edinburgh..) thanks to you neds in Grangemouth. And will it come down again in Edinburgh? No chance....so you're on £32K eh? Lots more than me, AND got a final salary pension? think yersel' lucky...striking numbties
3

interstellarmince,

outer-space 29/04/2008 19:49:33
Independence for Scotland is the only answer. A very good article on 'black gold' from 2005 in the Independent...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/how-black-gold-was-hijacked-north-sea-oil-and-the-betrayal-of-scotland-518697.html
4

John Blackley,

Florida 29/04/2008 19:50:41
Interesting that all this 'story' reports are platitudes. "proposal drawn up", "constructive and meaningful", "hopes for an end", etc. - plus the usual valueless platitudes from the political bystanders.
5

Scotish Exile,

29/04/2008 20:37:48
and the oil companies and the governemnt rub their hands with glee, thank you very very much stupid scottish people...when will we ever learn?? In many ways we get what we deserve, to be ripped off
6

Phil C,

29/04/2008 21:10:03
I wonder what changed things. Jim Ratcliffe probably agreed to bend over and be shafted by every union member who wanted a shot! Disgraceful if they've given in totally to these dinosaur union bullies. Let's hope some new legislation comes out of this to stop a repeat.

The problem for the members is that they've put their jobs in danger if they've kept their gold-plated pensions.
7

Awake,

North Lanarkshire 29/04/2008 21:22:57
None of us knows what is really going on. Establishment controlled Westminster scheming is in the right ball park. There is one indisputable fact: Whatever is decided, it won't be in the interests of the Scottish people. It will be in the interests of the Establishment. We Scots know this and I only hope that whenever we get back to the polls that the vote-rigging in Scotland will be stopped.
8

W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 29/04/2008 22:03:03
A lot of Tories on here again.
9

IainGlasgow,

29/04/2008 22:10:52
According to BBC News the closure of the forties pipeline resulting from this strike, which brings ashore 30% of the UK's oil from the North Sea, will have cost the exchequer £50 million a day in lost revenue. A story which appears to have disappeared from the BBC website probably under instruction from the Labour Party. This means the total revenue from the North Sea is somewhere in the region of £170 million a day, probably about £150 million of that from Scottish waters.

By contrast the Scottish Government's annual budget of £30 billion equates to just over £82 million a day.


10

A Voice From Scotland,

29/04/2008 23:12:45
#10. We see a lot of back pedaling going on now that these plebs realise in there quest to ramp up the effect of the strike they have shown us and the world there hand. Which only confirms what we all know, and ensures a return of a stronger SNP government who will cast of the yoke of the imperialistic fascist British state.
11

Willie,

29/04/2008 23:43:12
The Exchequer has lost nothing.
The Oil has not been poured down the sink!!
It will just come later probably when the price has gone up netting the Exchequer more revenue!!
Instead of fighting mythical political battles why not concentrate on the lies the great british media have spun over this dispute?
If they're a sample of the news we get daily maybe its time for all poliyical parties to expose this dishonesty and take action against the proprietors!!
12

MM PERTH OZ,

WA 30/04/2008 00:50:39
Well done to all the INEOS employees, although I think there's still a long way to go.

It's good to see there are still workers who will stand up against there employers, instead of the mostly whingin nancies on this forum who for days have been on here bleetin about their own wages and conditions but actually do absolutely nothing about it !

People like #2....

#8 I agree
13

MikeyG,

Newcastle 30/04/2008 18:59:49
lol !!! #13...so you're a hero who gets all the money he wants and stamps his feet if he doesn't get big bonuses etc? And no doubt all the holidays he wants...may a kangaroo box your chops off... Me, I'm doing okay, and actually realise that, 'cos if I went on strike like 13 suggested; well, the company I work for would probably lose business, go bust and, surprise surprise, I'd be out a job!! As it is, I get a yearly rise, good bonus, loads o' overtime, and we all get torn in and share the proceeds of a company that does well looking after it's customers, and I walk to work, and you know what, the boss is first in the door in the mornings and lots of times last out. Me, I'm happy with my lot, don't have a final salary pension, but hey, quality of life is good and me and the missus both do ok and save for retirement (just round the corner, hooray!) and rainy days...some people though, are never happy. Sheep, following wee yappy red, who remember, pays for his £200K by keeping himself in a job winding you lot up lol
14

MM PERTH OZ,

WA 01/05/2008 00:48:56
#14, You are indeed a doormat, an employers dream, a yearly rise, bonus and having to work o'time and you still don't make 32k a year, no wonder the boss is first in a first to leave cos he's busy laughing his socks off at his wee pet puppy who's "happy with his lot" start applying for better jobs, try and sell your skills elsewhere just to see what they're worth. You don't have to go on strike just learn to play the game.

I have doubled my wages in the last 3 years, get 6 weeks holidays a year and work no overtime, because I value my skills and will sell them to the highest bidder, and employers realise this.

I really hope your kids don't come to you one day about being unhappy with their crummy job and rotten wages and you tell them to be "happy with their lot"

p.s. what has walking to work got anything to do with it ?
15

MikeyG,

Newcastle 04/05/2008 16:15:22
#16, join the real world! my work life balance is pretty good thank you, and the wee one is doing okay so thanks for asking....but that's all NOTHING to do with these neds striking in Grangemouth...THEY should go and sell their skills to the highest bidder lol, 'cos obviously they don't like their job!!! It's not as if they have to be highly skilled either, it's money for old rope apparantly, so say the lorry drivers that deliver kero etc to us....anyway, thanks to them, petrol prices went up last week and have stayed there, and will do so.....they're the muppets for being talked into striking for what, not a lot at the end of the day that actually affects them!!??!! They still get their final salary pension so what was all the fuss about huh? Tell you what, investors will think again if Mr wots-is-name decides Grangemouth is costing too much and wants to sell. If he can't sell it, he'll just let it run down, close it and write it off...he's making millions eleswhere anyway...so that's them out a job and no pension 'cos Mr what's is name will make sure of that lol

 

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